Scott,
Sailing with the boom in the upper position is not a risk.  As suggested, in a blow you'll just find yourself heeling over more.  - rob

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From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Scott Fennessey
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 7:24 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin

The lower hole in the mast for the boom pin on my boat is, oddly, too far to the left for the pin to fit in (upper one is fine, never fell out). So I've been sailing with the boom all the way down; it rests on the bottom fitting at the mast so that the boom has sufficient clearance over the cabin top. I keep the boat in a slip without access to power and my cordless drill is not up to the task of drilling a bigger hole. 

Am I running the risk of seeing my mainsail, boom, furler and all, fly out the top of the mast in a big gust?  

Scott Fennessey 
Tomato Sloop

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>   3. Re: Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick (Jay Curry)
>   4. Boom pin (John Waldhausen)
>   5. Re: Boom pin (Peter Nyberg)
>   6. Re: Boom pin (John Waldhausen)
>   7. Re: Boom pin (William Scarpitta)
>   8. Re: Boom pin (William Scarpitta)
>   9. Re: Cockpit Waterproofing response to Mike (Jay Curry)
>  10. Re: ST1000 installation (Michael Weisner)
>  11. Re: Boom pin (Lowe, Rob)
>  12. Re: Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick (Rick)
>  13. Re: Boom pin (John Waldhausen)
>  14. Re: Boom pin (Lowe, Rob)
>  15. Re: Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick (Jay Curry)
>  16. Re: Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick (thebooker)
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>  18. Re: Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick (Jay Curry)
>  19. Re: Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick (Shawn Boles)
>  20. Re: Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick (Michael Weisner)
>  21. Re: Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick (thebooker)
>  22. Re: Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick (Michael Weisner)
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>  25. Re: Boom pin (Mary Lou Troy)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 12:42:09 -0800
> From: "Jay Curry" <jac2 at wavecable.com>
> To: "Gary" <planegm at yahoo.com>, "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>    <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing
> Message-ID: <F42AEC5D66AF450BBE2CFAB924904E12 at Officepc>
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> 
> Gary:
> 
> Very helpful. I had not considered foam or a combination of foam with fiber
> glass. The purpose of sealing is not for sustained water presence, but to
> prevent temporary splashing from entering the boat until it can be quickly
> and efficiently self bailed out the stern.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Jay
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Gary via Rhodes22-list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 3:15 PM
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing
> 
>> Jay, I have enjoyed reading your questions/responses as well as those who
>> have sent you their responses.  All quite interesting.  My reply is a bit
>> of
>> brain storming with reference to waterproofing the under seat water
>> leakage
>> issue.
>> 
>> What about stuffing rags (might rot) or cut up pipe foam insulation
>> longitutanly to act as a barrier to limit how far window weather proofing
>> foam will fall after spraying.  There are 3 types that the big boxes sell.
>> First is foam that expands times 3.  Then foam that expands times 2.  Then
>> the foam that is a one for one expansion.  They are closed cell so
>> waterfroof.  Experience here says if you use the times 3 foam, understand
>> that it keeps expanding for almost 24 hours and has un seated my drywall
>> repair to comical results. So my suggestion is to use times two foam and
>> only let it fill your trough 1/2" deep. Safer yet would be the times one
>> expansion, but then you might miss some areas that could leak.
>> 
>> This suggestion may also work in some capacity under the aft end of the
>> seat
>> where the forward wall of the lazerett breaches are.  The only caveat is
>> that the foam has to be supported, ie Duct tape?  Duct tape will release
>> under the pressure of the expanding foam.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----
>> Gary
>> s/v Just Bent
>> '90 Rhodes 22
>> (recycled 2001)
>> Sun City, AZ
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 12:42:34 -0800
> From: "Jay Curry" <jac2 at wavecable.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing response to Mike
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> Brooks. As always, I enjoy your responses. Thanks for the mention of
> venting. I agree, the floor pan is an important part of that. I need to
> consider how to keep that ventilation in place when the seal is not needed.
> I am with you on the other points. Sailing should be fun and easy.
> Emergencies should be short and recoverable. And last, any work you have to
> do should be part of the fun, not forced on you by avoidable problems
> associated with the rigging, sails or boat set up.
> 
> Take care. Keep it easy and thanks
> 
> Jay
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "thebooker" <bridges.brooks at gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 8:33 AM
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing response to Mike
> 
>> Jay,
>> 
>> We're in very close agreement on the 175.
>> 
>> First, I'm in my 70's and now want my sailing as pain and drama free as
>> possible. With my roller furling 130 jib, roller furling main, motor lift
>> (for my 22 lb Torqeedo - so heavy 22 lb) this goal is 95% achieved.
>> Installing a tiller pilot will bring me to sailing nirvana. I can bike
>> right
>> up to my boat slip in 5 minutes and love getting away from dock as fast as
>> any motor boater.
>> 
>> Second, I sailed with a 175 just enough to know that life for me is too
>> short to be constantly dealing with a sail so big and heavy and that, in
>> my
>> area, can be fully unfurled roughly 10% of the time.
>> 
>> I tried a smaller, non furling jib for one season - from an Etchells 22,
>> 100
>> or 110%. I loved it. The boat went very well upwind and off wind and
>> tacked
>> quickly and easily (I also single hand most of the time). The two things I
>> didn't like were (1) having to stuff it in a deck bag after sailing (bent
>> over for several minutes is a back killer) and (2) in higher winds I had
>> to
>> deal with an overpowered boat or take it down. Even in light winds, the
>> very
>> clean leading edge (just a wire) seemed to give back a lot of the power
>> loss
>> due to smaller area.
>> 
>> Gary Hoyt says the clean leading edge can make a jib 40% more powerful
>> than
>> a main the same area because of turbulence caused by the mast. Doesn't
>> take
>> much imagination to view a partially furled 175 as a sail behind a mast to
>> me. This makes me wonder if my unfurled 100% jib was delivering more like
>> a
>> 175 furled to 130 size. No question that the furled sail reduces
>> effectiveness of unfurled part.
>> 
>> Also, from my brief exposure to aerodynamics I learned that a circular
>> cross
>> section (like a mast or partially furled jib) has 10 times the wind
>> resistance of an airfoil of same thickness.
>> 
>> My compromise was a 130 furling from Stan. Can sail unfurled in higher
>> winds
>> than 175 and, when furled to same area, have a smaller roll at leading
>> edge.
>> I also think the dacron is a bit lighter than 175 and that, combined the
>> smaller sail area makes it quite a bit lighter.  I'm adding thin white,
>> split tubing that just fits around shrouds to reduce friction when
>> tacking.
>> 
>> Previous owner also bought a Univera Power Sail (nylon, roller furling
>> genoa) which I can hook up very quickly. I have jib sheets attached with a
>> soft shackle I made (an interesting project) which lets me quickly switch
>> jib sheets to UPS if I want. Does not point for beans but great for
>> reaches
>> and broad reaches.
>> 
>> *************************************************************
>> 
>> Now, your cockpit. (My Nonsuch 30 was considered unsuitable for blue water
>> almost solely because of  its large, seat-a-crowd cockpit with
>> insufficient
>> drainage.)
>> 
>> I think you should think about ventilation for cabin and rear lazzrerette
>> if
>> you block the underseat openings. I suspect they help keep R22's mildew
>> and
>> mold free.  So, maybe design them to be fairly easily removed when not
>> needed. Or to take one of those 4" diameter circular screw in deck hole
>> thingamabobs (I love nautical talk) Yes!
>> 
>> If you do block them, I agree you need drainage. I'm thinking two, say 4"
>> diameter pipes going through lazzerette on either side, level with cockpit
>> floor, and under seats would dump a lot of water fast. Don't know what
>> material would work best with fiberglass. Thinking more, you may want them
>> nearer the centerline so if knocked down, they don't fill rather than
>> drain
>> the cockpit. In fact, you may want a one-way valve in each - at least a
>> flap
>> on outside.
>> 
>> Safe fun sailing whatever you do!  Keep us posted.
>> 
>> Brooks
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----
>> Brooks Bridges
>> 1986, Recycled 2006 "Changes"
>> Cambridge, MD
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 12:42:45 -0800
> From: "Jay Curry" <jac2 at wavecable.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick
> Message-ID: <611E70171BB24FA088FC17EA0214F050 at Officepc>
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> 
> Shawn: Thanks for the response and support on the drainage.
> 
> To Shawn, Rick and any others considering responding to my comments on the
> 175, please stop. I experimented for two full summers with every conceivable
> combination of reefing, boom position and sheet placement before coming to
> the inescapable conclusion that a different sail was needed for my purposes.
> If you enjoy the 175, more power to you. But, assuming (by the content of
> your response) that my comments on it are a result of inexperience, lack of
> experimentation or laziness is insulting and unnecessary. I do not need an
> education on sail handling.
> 
> I am interested only in the floor pan seal and modification of the storage
> area under rear seats for self bailing. It is NOT an attempt to create a
> blue water boat. But as others on the list note, sailing in blue water near
> shore in this type of boat is common where I live and where others live.
> Sailing the San Juan Islands is and has been done often by other Rhodes
> owners. There is a group sail of small boats in the Islands each year.
> Making this boat more prepared for severe conditions, does not change what
> it is, it just makes it safer and even more capable. I see no harm in
> pursuing it especially if the change improves what it is and does not
> sacrifice structural or sailing capability.
> 
> The possibilities of owner modifications of this boat are part of makes it
> such an attractive pocket cruiser. I am trying to honor that use and
> process. Your help, is appreciated.
> 
> Jay
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 16:08:29 -0500
> From: John Waldhausen <waldjh1 at gmail.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
> Message-ID: <2B8A7549-22ED-4D9F-B427-2D0C3687FBC2 at gmail.com>
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> Dear all,
> I have a 2012 Rhodes and have found on several occasions that the pin that holds the boom in place on the mast has come out and caused the boom to drop (once at an inopportune time when I was trying to get out of the way of a race in progress). I usually single had the boat and in a low wind its not a problem as I can just just push the boom back up and the pin locks into place again, but in a higher wind (above 15 knots, the force is considerable and its challenging alone). Have any of you dealt with this issue and if so what have you done about it?
> John 
> Bainbridge Island
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 16:20:58 -0500
> From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
> Message-ID: <09187103-EF0F-4E1B-AEC3-2AF22E2B6308 at sunnybeeches.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> I?ve had this happen a couple of times last season, but only when I was away from the boat, never underway.  I?d come back to the boat after being away for a week or so, and the mast end of the boom would be down at the cabin top.  How this happens has been an unsolved mystery. I don?t have a solution, but if anyone does, I too would be interested in hearing it.
> 
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 4:08 PM, John Waldhausen <waldjh1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear all,
>> I have a 2012 Rhodes and have found on several occasions that the pin that holds the boom in place on the mast has come out and caused the boom to drop (once at an inopportune time when I was trying to get out of the way of a race in progress). I usually single had the boat and in a low wind its not a problem as I can just just push the boom back up and the pin locks into place again, but in a higher wind (above 15 knots, the force is considerable and its challenging alone). Have any of you dealt with this issue and if so what have you done about it?
>> John 
>> Bainbridge Island
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 16:40:53 -0500
> From: John Waldhausen <waldjh1 at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
> Message-ID: <78CD6712-B76A-494F-933A-CB8E1AC0A4B3 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
> 
> It appears to me that the pin only engages the hole in the mast by about 1/8 inch and that a longer pin would help but I'm not sure how to change it for a longer one. 
> 
> John Waldhausen
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 4:20 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I?ve had this happen a couple of times last season, but only when I was away from the boat, never underway.  I?d come back to the boat after being away for a week or so, and the mast end of the boom would be down at the cabin top.  How this happens has been an unsolved mystery. I don?t have a solution, but if anyone does, I too would be interested in hearing it.
>> 
>> Peter Nyberg
>> Coventry, CT
>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 4:08 PM, John Waldhausen <waldjh1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> I have a 2012 Rhodes and have found on several occasions that the pin that holds the boom in place on the mast has come out and caused the boom to drop (once at an inopportune time when I was trying to get out of the way of a race in progress). I usually single had the boat and in a low wind its not a problem as I can just just push the boom back up and the pin locks into place again, but in a higher wind (above 15 knots, the force is considerable and its challenging alone). Have any of you dealt with this issue and if so what have you done about it?
>>> John 
>>> Bainbridge Island
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 22:12:48 +0000 (UTC)
> From: William Scarpitta <tryc96 at ymail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
> Message-ID: <1905489185.1372023.1487628768696 at mail.yahoo.com>
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> 
> Yup. ?it needs a bolt long enough that you can back it up with a locknut inside.Billy Scarpittas/v SandpiperMarinatown, Fort Myers, FL
> 
>      From: John Waldhausen <waldjh1 at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 4:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
> 
> It appears to me that the pin only engages the hole in the mast by about 1/8 inch and that a longer pin would help but I'm not sure how to change it for a longer one. 
> 
> John Waldhausen
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 4:20 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I?ve had this happen a couple of times last season, but only when I was away from the boat, never underway.? I?d come back to the boat after being away for a week or so, and the mast end of the boom would be down at the cabin top.? How this happens has been an unsolved mystery. I don?t have a solution, but if anyone does, I too would be interested in hearing it.
>> 
>> Peter Nyberg
>> Coventry, CT
>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 4:08 PM, John Waldhausen <waldjh1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> I have a 2012 Rhodes and have found on several occasions that the pin that holds the boom in place on the mast has come out and caused the boom to drop (once at an inopportune time when I was trying to get out of the way of a race in progress). I usually single had the boat and in a low wind its not a problem as I can just just push the boom back up and the pin locks into place again, but in a higher wind (above 15 knots, the force is considerable and its challenging alone). Have any of you dealt with this issue and if so what have you done about it?
>>> John 
>>> Bainbridge Island
>>> __________________________________________________
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> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 22:11:05 +0000 (UTC)
> From: William Scarpitta <tryc96 at ymail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
> Message-ID: <70108714.1357516.1487628665376 at mail.yahoo.com>
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> 
> Hi Billy Scarpitta here, two-year owner of Sandpiper a 1996 R-22 with IMF. ?I had the bolt that goes into the plastic in the boom strip the threads and come out. ?When I took the mast down to replace the main I used a longer bolt and put an aircraft type lock nut on the inside. ?Did the job, but it's only easy if the mast is already down.Marinatown, Fort Myers, FL
> 
>      From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 4:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
> 
> I?ve had this happen a couple of times last season, but only when I was away from the boat, never underway.? I?d come back to the boat after being away for a week or so, and the mast end of the boom would be down at the cabin top.? How this happens has been an unsolved mystery. I don?t have a solution, but if anyone does, I too would be interested in hearing it.
> 
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 4:08 PM, John Waldhausen <waldjh1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear all,
>> I have a 2012 Rhodes and have found on several occasions that the pin that holds the boom in place on the mast has come out and caused the boom to drop (once at an inopportune time when I was trying to get out of the way of a race in progress). I usually single had the boat and in a low wind its not a problem as I can just just push the boom back up and the pin locks into place again, but in a higher wind (above 15 knots, the force is considerable and its challenging alone). Have any of you dealt with this issue and if so what have you done about it?
>> John 
>> Bainbridge Island
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 14:28:10 -0800
> From: "Jay Curry" <jac2 at wavecable.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing response to Mike
> Message-ID: <E70E3B8DADA24B25AD39E49279442694 at Officepc>
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> 
> Thanks Gary:
> 
> I assume by cockpit cap top edges that you mean the top edges of the floor 
> pan under the seats.  What has been your experience after sealing with 
> changes in venting the cabin? Here, moss and mold are a constant problem.
> Even the summers are cool with 60 degrees common on the water even 
> in June. In the winter we can go a month or more without seeing the sun.
> Venting is critical. I was thinking about sealing the top edges and putting
> closeable vents in the sides under the seats to allow air flow when
> docked or under sail in good weather.
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Gary Novotny" <gjnovotny at comcast.net>
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 12:37 PM
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing response to Mike
> 
>> Jay,
>> 
>> I won't comment on the wisdom of enclosing the areas below the cockpit
>> seats, but I sealed the gaps between the hull and the cockpit cap top
>> edges
>> with can foam from home depot. The foam I used did push out the cap a
>> little
>> in a couple of spots so I concur minimally expanding foam is the correct
>> choice for this.
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>> Gary J Novotny
>> 7309 S Indian River Drive
>> Fort Pierce, FL 34982
>> gjnovotny at comcast.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 22:57:25 -0500
> From: "Michael Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ST1000 installation
> Message-ID: <00f601d28bf6$9e168f60$da43ae20$@ebsmed.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="UTF-8"
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Not yet!  I opened up the boat and measured where I want the ST1000 to be affixed (based on the experience of others in the archives). I verified that the throw looks about right and started running the electrical connections.  I had to stop and cover the boat to spend some time with my oldest daughter who thought that the long weekend and great weather was a good excuse to visit.  No complaints here but my planned projects are back on hold until the next warm weekend.  As long as it is done before May 1st I will be happy.
> 
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 13:53:56 +0000
> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
> Message-ID: <05c4a85d91e44afb92d4e86bd9d05830 at MARCONI.cc.w2k.vt.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Any idea where these pins can be found?  I pulled my main out of the mast yesterday and notice the pin on my slider is missing all together.  
> 
> Billy,
> I'm also interested in your replacement.  Doesn't sound like it's readily adjusted up and down like the pin system?? - rob
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Waldhausen
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 4:41 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
> 
> It appears to me that the pin only engages the hole in the mast by about 1/8 inch and that a longer pin would help but I'm not sure how to change it for a longer one. 
> 
> John Waldhausen
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 4:20 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I?ve had this happen a couple of times last season, but only when I was away from the boat, never underway.  I?d come back to the boat after being away for a week or so, and the mast end of the boom would be down at the cabin top.  How this happens has been an unsolved mystery. I don?t have a solution, but if anyone does, I too would be interested in hearing it.
>> 
>> Peter Nyberg
>> Coventry, CT
>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 4:08 PM, John Waldhausen <waldjh1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> I have a 2012 Rhodes and have found on several occasions that the pin that holds the boom in place on the mast has come out and caused the boom to drop (once at an inopportune time when I was trying to get out of the way of a race in progress). I usually single had the boat and in a low wind its not a problem as I can just just push the boom back up and the pin locks into place again, but in a higher wind (above 15 knots, the force is considerable and its challenging alone). Have any of you dealt with this issue and if so what have you done about it?
>>> John
>>> Bainbridge Island
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:05:31 -0500
> From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick
> Message-ID:
>    <CABkv36ZWvpzJaC9fT2tzHC+ezYDF5RhN=8peLbCHORfE2JWaBQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Jay,
> 
> Why are you upset when you are corrected for putting forth alternative
> facts about the boat and sails?  And others sailing the boat where it
> doesn't belong shouldn't be motivation for you to follow.
> 
> Reducing the volume of water the cockpit can hold before it drains into the
> cabin and lazaret will not prepare you for severe conditions.  There is no
> bridge deck and the lazaret does not drain.
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 07:39:56 -0800
> From: John Waldhausen <waldjh1 at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
> Message-ID: <72EC9D25-5347-4D10-AF75-3A7247683E9C at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
> 
> Since I never drop my mast, I'm not sure what the pin is even for. I assumed it was so the mast could drop. What is it's actual use?
> 
> John Waldhausen
> Bainbridge Island
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 5:53 AM, Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Any idea where these pins can be found?  I pulled my main out of the mast yesterday and notice the pin on my slider is missing all together.  
>> 
>> Billy,
>> I'm also interested in your replacement.  Doesn't sound like it's readily adjusted up and down like the pin system?? - rob
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Waldhausen
>> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 4:41 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
>> 
>> It appears to me that the pin only engages the hole in the mast by about 1/8 inch and that a longer pin would help but I'm not sure how to change it for a longer one. 
>> 
>> John Waldhausen
>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 4:20 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I?ve had this happen a couple of times last season, but only when I was away from the boat, never underway.  I?d come back to the boat after being away for a week or so, and the mast end of the boom would be down at the cabin top.  How this happens has been an unsolved mystery. I don?t have a solution, but if anyone does, I too would be interested in hearing it.
>>> 
>>> Peter Nyberg
>>> Coventry, CT
>>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 4:08 PM, John Waldhausen <waldjh1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> I have a 2012 Rhodes and have found on several occasions that the pin that holds the boom in place on the mast has come out and caused the boom to drop (once at an inopportune time when I was trying to get out of the way of a race in progress). I usually single had the boat and in a low wind its not a problem as I can just just push the boom back up and the pin locks into place again, but in a higher wind (above 15 knots, the force is considerable and its challenging alone). Have any of you dealt with this issue and if so what have you done about it?
>>>> John
>>>> Bainbridge Island
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to 
>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>> 
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>> 
>>> __________________________________________________
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>> __________________________________________________
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 15:59:03 +0000
> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
> Message-ID: <7d8a5b03f048426c9995a38c12216dce at MARCONI.cc.w2k.vt.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> The pin on the boom allows you to move the boom up and down in response to wind conditions.  There is a series of holes in the mast that the pin clicks into.  I think most of us sail with the boom "in the up" position.  In this position, the pop top can be raised up.  The pop stop slider has its own pin that clicks in to hold it up.  When conditions dictate, you can drop the pop top down (by pulling the pin) and then lower the boom (and thus the main) down to a lower position.  - Rob
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Waldhausen
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 10:40 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
> 
> Since I never drop my mast, I'm not sure what the pin is even for. I assumed it was so the mast could drop. What is it's actual use?
> 
> John Waldhausen
> Bainbridge Island
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 5:53 AM, Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Any idea where these pins can be found?  I pulled my main out of the mast yesterday and notice the pin on my slider is missing all together.  
>> 
>> Billy,
>> I'm also interested in your replacement.  Doesn't sound like it's 
>> readily adjusted up and down like the pin system?? - rob
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
>> Behalf Of John Waldhausen
>> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 4:41 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
>> 
>> It appears to me that the pin only engages the hole in the mast by about 1/8 inch and that a longer pin would help but I'm not sure how to change it for a longer one. 
>> 
>> John Waldhausen
>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 4:20 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I?ve had this happen a couple of times last season, but only when I was away from the boat, never underway.  I?d come back to the boat after being away for a week or so, and the mast end of the boom would be down at the cabin top.  How this happens has been an unsolved mystery. I don?t have a solution, but if anyone does, I too would be interested in hearing it.
>>> 
>>> Peter Nyberg
>>> Coventry, CT
>>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 4:08 PM, John Waldhausen <waldjh1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> I have a 2012 Rhodes and have found on several occasions that the pin that holds the boom in place on the mast has come out and caused the boom to drop (once at an inopportune time when I was trying to get out of the way of a race in progress). I usually single had the boat and in a low wind its not a problem as I can just just push the boom back up and the pin locks into place again, but in a higher wind (above 15 knots, the force is considerable and its challenging alone). Have any of you dealt with this issue and if so what have you done about it?
>>>> John
>>>> Bainbridge Island
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>> 
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>> 
>>> __________________________________________________
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 09:47:27 -0800
> From: "Jay Curry" <jac2 at wavecable.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick
> Message-ID: <D286150D03834A388C399A17E539F40A at Officepc>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>    reply-type=original
> 
> Not upset at all. Just attempting to filter out the useless noise of those
> who fail to grasp (deliberately so I think) the scope and intent of my
> purpose and idea. Asking questions is often a difficult and painful process.
> The reasons for asking them are often attacked by those who disagree or are
> in some way challenged by them. A respectful person would take the time and
> put in the effort to understand that the answers I seek could mean I am
> wrong. I am open to it. You should be as well.
> 
> Passing on to me comments about basic sail or boat handling even a brand new
> sailor would know are not respectful or in any way helpful. Quite the
> opposite. Assuming I am ignoring the purpose and capabilities of the boat
> are equally so. Safety has always been the first consideration. Cold water
> sailors often do not get second chances.
> 
> Your comment below proves you have not fully considered my idea or
> explanations and are not even willing  give me credit for having enough
> sense to even ask questions.. I see no point in trying to convince you other
> wise.
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Rick" <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 7:05 AM
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick
> 
>> Jay,
>> 
>> Why are you upset when you are corrected for putting forth alternative
>> facts about the boat and sails?  And others sailing the boat where it
>> doesn't belong shouldn't be motivation for you to follow.
>> 
>> Reducing the volume of water the cockpit can hold before it drains into
>> the
>> cabin and lazaret will not prepare you for severe conditions.  There is no
>> bridge deck and the lazaret does not drain.
>> 
>> Rick
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 11:04:42 -0700 (MST)
> From: thebooker <bridges.brooks at gmail.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick
> Message-ID: <1487700282047-52858.post at n5.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Well, I suspect it'll be a long time before Jay disturbs your peace again and
> that's a pity. It would have been interesting to hear what he does. 
> 
> Jay is obviously a very experienced, knowledgeable sailor. He's found
> something he prefers to a 175 and given excellent reasons. He asked about
> making a change to boat cockpit; not about his sail choice. Nevertheless,
> the 175 proponents felt compelled to point out his heresy.
> 
> Let it go, please. There's enough going on in the world raising my BP; I
> come here to get away from that.
> 
> Brooks Bridges
> Choptank River, Cambridge MD
> "Changes"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Brooks Bridges
> 1986, Recycled 2006 "Changes"
> Cambridge, MD
> --
> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Cockpit-Waterproofing-tp52824p52858.html
> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 13:11:26 -0500
> From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick
> Message-ID:
>    <CABkv36bA-LR1cWc-3UyDSe5s71QQ77ThJbmCaVW9vrnCFKYPSQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Jay,
> 
> This is a public forum for people with a wide range of experience with the
> boat.  When you say something basically incorrect, then a basic explanation
> of the correction is needed for all.
> 
> Don't assume I haven't considered your idea because I disagree with it.
> And if you go through with it without testing, I'm convinced you will get
> very cold.
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:29:56 -0800
> From: "Jay Curry" <jac2 at wavecable.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick
> Message-ID: <1BDDC09E1F2042E6B73FD8EBFAF1CC9A at Officepc>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>    reply-type=original
> 
> Rick
> 
> I knew this was going to happen. I should have known better. I got bullied
> last time over this. Yes, a public forum, but one with a very aggressive,
> dismissive mechanism for shutting down any discussion contrary to the boats
> advertised features.
> 
> Your comments on my idea betray your intent and make it clear you do not
> understand and arrogantly assume I am incorrect because I disagree with you.
> 
> ...............................
> 
> To those of you that provided some useful feedback, thanks you so much.
> 
> I will be exiting this list. It is abundantly clear that Rick will
> aggressively dismiss ANY idea that he does not agree with and  block in
> every way possible any attempt I make to do so.
> 
> I do not need this in my life.
> 
> I will continue to pursue the idea. Those of you that have my email address
> are welcome to check in. I would enjoy hearing from you. If it works out, I
> will post pictures somehow. I am sure they would not be allowed on the list.
> 
> Jay
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Rick" <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 10:11 AM
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick
> 
>> Jay,
>> 
>> This is a public forum for people with a wide range of experience with the
>> boat.  When you say something basically incorrect, then a basic
>> explanation
>> of the correction is needed for all.
>> 
>> Don't assume I haven't considered your idea because I disagree with it.
>> And if you go through with it without testing, I'm convinced you will get
>> very cold.
>> 
>> Rick
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:37:06 -0800
> From: Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick
> Message-ID:
>    <CAMzGxuOBYcTTdC0y6ZTpxCmVDx29_dsmri400CZ2wx4ufn6iQA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Jay:
> 
> I'm sure you're much more able sailor than I will ever be. That said, I was
> just trying to provide the perspective of an old guy who uses the R22 in a
> sometimes windy lake setting. I hope you will reconsider your decision
> about participating in the list. With respect to the 175, horses for
> courses say I.
> 
> Cheers,
> Shawn
> s/v Sweet Baboo
> 
> 
> On Feb 21, 2017 10:30 AM, "Jay Curry" <jac2 at wavecable.com> wrote:
> 
> Rick
> 
> I knew this was going to happen. I should have known better. I got bullied
> last time over this. Yes, a public forum, but one with a very aggressive,
> dismissive mechanism for shutting down any discussion contrary to the boats
> advertised features.
> 
> Your comments on my idea betray your intent and make it clear you do not
> understand and arrogantly assume I am incorrect because I disagree with you.
> 
> ...............................
> 
> To those of you that provided some useful feedback, thanks you so much.
> 
> I will be exiting this list. It is abundantly clear that Rick will
> aggressively dismiss ANY idea that he does not agree with and  block in
> every way possible any attempt I make to do so.
> 
> I do not need this in my life.
> 
> I will continue to pursue the idea. Those of you that have my email address
> are welcome to check in. I would enjoy hearing from you. If it works out, I
> will post pictures somehow. I am sure they would not be allowed on the list.
> 
> Jay
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Rick" <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 10:11 AM
> 
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick
> 
> Jay,
>> 
>> This is a public forum for people with a wide range of experience with the
>> boat.  When you say something basically incorrect, then a basic
>> explanation
>> of the correction is needed for all.
>> 
>> Don't assume I haven't considered your idea because I disagree with it.
>> And if you go through with it without testing, I'm convinced you will get
>> very cold.
>> 
>> Rick
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
>> 
>> 
> __________________________________________________
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> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> 
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 20
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 14:06:01 -0500
> From: "Michael Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick
> Message-ID: <019901d28c75$8c0a6740$a41f35c0$@ebsmed.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Jay,
> 
> Any of your contributions will be welcome on the list as long as I am
> responsible the list.  Your thoughts, and those of others, are all welcome.
> The intent was originally to mimic an atmosphere of a sailor's watering
> hole.  Some will always attempt to speak louder than others.  I simply ask
> that we not "bully" others.  Forcing someone to exit the list is certainly
> not a desired behavior.
> 
> You are definitely right that others have been overly critical of your
> ideas, some going so far as to say that you are "incorrect" if you do not
> agree with them.  This, unfortunately, occurs much of the time in a forum
> where everyone is an "expert" and offers their comments in an effort to
> "convert" those who have reached a different conclusion.  I can only ask
> that we think a bit more before clicking the "send" button.
> 
> If you choose to leave, may you experience fair winds and following seas and
> non-flooded cockpits.  If, as I hope, you will decide to regularly publish
> your ideas, I can assure you that I have no intent to censure or stifle your
> posts.
> 
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 21
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 12:17:10 -0700 (MST)
> From: thebooker <bridges.brooks at gmail.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick
> Message-ID:
>    <CAAt7pxQkBRqdKy1Xa54U9h9aQKPm6ocmXCJmWP5J82UfypC3mw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Nicely said Mike.
> 
> Jay's left the list so I'll forward this to him.
> 
> Brooks
> 
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:06 PM, mweisner at ebsmed.com [via Rhodes 22] <
> ml-node+s1065344n52863h70 at n5.nabble.com> wrote:
> 
>> Jay,
>> 
>> Any of your contributions will be welcome on the list as long as I am
>> responsible the list.  Your thoughts, and those of others, are all
>> welcome.
>> The intent was originally to mimic an atmosphere of a sailor's watering
>> hole.  Some will always attempt to speak louder than others.  I simply ask
>> that we not "bully" others.  Forcing someone to exit the list is certainly
>> not a desired behavior.
>> 
>> You are definitely right that others have been overly critical of your
>> ideas, some going so far as to say that you are "incorrect" if you do not
>> agree with them.  This, unfortunately, occurs much of the time in a forum
>> where everyone is an "expert" and offers their comments in an effort to
>> "convert" those who have reached a different conclusion.  I can only ask
>> that we think a bit more before clicking the "send" button.
>> 
>> If you choose to leave, may you experience fair winds and following seas
>> and
>> non-flooded cockpits.  If, as I hope, you will decide to regularly publish
>> your ideas, I can assure you that I have no intent to censure or stifle
>> your
>> posts.
>> 
>> Mike
>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>> 
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> Message: 22
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 14:19:31 -0500
> From: "Michael Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick
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> I already have.
> 
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
> thebooker
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 2:17 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing response to Rick
> 
> Nicely said Mike.
> 
> Jay's left the list so I'll forward this to him.
> 
> Brooks
> 
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:06 PM, mweisner at ebsmed.com [via Rhodes 22] <
> ml-node+s1065344n52863h70 at n5.nabble.com> wrote:
> 
>> Jay,
>> 
>> Any of your contributions will be welcome on the list as long as I am 
>> responsible the list.  Your thoughts, and those of others, are all 
>> welcome.
>> The intent was originally to mimic an atmosphere of a sailor's 
>> watering hole.  Some will always attempt to speak louder than others.  
>> I simply ask that we not "bully" others.  Forcing someone to exit the 
>> list is certainly not a desired behavior.
>> 
>> You are definitely right that others have been overly critical of your 
>> ideas, some going so far as to say that you are "incorrect" if you do 
>> not agree with them.  This, unfortunately, occurs much of the time in 
>> a forum where everyone is an "expert" and offers their comments in an 
>> effort to "convert" those who have reached a different conclusion.  I 
>> can only ask that we think a bit more before clicking the "send" button.
>> 
>> If you choose to leave, may you experience fair winds and following 
>> seas and non-flooded cockpits.  If, as I hope, you will decide to 
>> regularly publish your ideas, I can assure you that I have no intent 
>> to censure or stifle your posts.
>> 
>> Mike
>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 23
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 14:51:43 -0800
> From: John Waldhausen <waldjh1 at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
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> I know about the pop top. Does one lower the boom just to decrease the wind speed hitting the sail? I have an in mast furling and have always just partially furled the sail as wind speed picks up. Probably a simple question but I have no experience lowering the boom ( on purpose).
> 
> John Waldhausen
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 7:59 AM, Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> The pin on the boom allows you to move the boom up and down in response to wind conditions.  There is a series of holes in the mast that the pin clicks into.  I think most of us sail with the boom "in the up" position.  In this position, the pop top can be raised up.  The pop stop slider has its own pin that clicks in to hold it up.  When conditions dictate, you can drop the pop top down (by pulling the pin) and then lower the boom (and thus the main) down to a lower position.  - Rob
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Waldhausen
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 10:40 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
>> 
>> Since I never drop my mast, I'm not sure what the pin is even for. I assumed it was so the mast could drop. What is it's actual use?
>> 
>> John Waldhausen
>> Bainbridge Island
>> 
>>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 5:53 AM, Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Any idea where these pins can be found?  I pulled my main out of the mast yesterday and notice the pin on my slider is missing all together.  
>>> 
>>> Billy,
>>> I'm also interested in your replacement.  Doesn't sound like it's 
>>> readily adjusted up and down like the pin system?? - rob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of John Waldhausen
>>> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 4:41 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
>>> 
>>> It appears to me that the pin only engages the hole in the mast by about 1/8 inch and that a longer pin would help but I'm not sure how to change it for a longer one. 
>>> 
>>> John Waldhausen
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 4:20 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I?ve had this happen a couple of times last season, but only when I was away from the boat, never underway.  I?d come back to the boat after being away for a week or so, and the mast end of the boom would be down at the cabin top.  How this happens has been an unsolved mystery. I don?t have a solution, but if anyone does, I too would be interested in hearing it.
>>>> 
>>>> Peter Nyberg
>>>> Coventry, CT
>>>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 4:08 PM, John Waldhausen <waldjh1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> I have a 2012 Rhodes and have found on several occasions that the pin that holds the boom in place on the mast has come out and caused the boom to drop (once at an inopportune time when I was trying to get out of the way of a race in progress). I usually single had the boat and in a low wind its not a problem as I can just just push the boom back up and the pin locks into place again, but in a higher wind (above 15 knots, the force is considerable and its challenging alone). Have any of you dealt with this issue and if so what have you done about it?
>>>>> John
>>>>> Bainbridge Island
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> Message: 24
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 18:01:11 -0500
> From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
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> Hi John,
> 
> Lowering the boom decreases heel when the wind is up.  The boat sails best
> on its feet.
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
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> Message: 25
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 18:15:02 -0500
> From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
> Message-ID: <4d35c011-3624-f8d4-c323-61574a3d2772 at atlanticbb.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> On a windy day you might want to try lowering the boom just to 
> experience the difference. It's not so much decreasing the wind speed as 
> it is decreasing the pressure - think of it as a lever and you are 
> moving the pressure point closer to the fulcrum. Yes you can get 
> somewhat the same effect by furling the sail but it is different.
> 
> Mary Lou
> ex Rhodes 22
> now Rosborough RF-246
> (a mini trawler)
> 
>> On 2/21/2017 5:51 PM, John Waldhausen wrote:
>> I know about the pop top. Does one lower the boom just to decrease the wind speed hitting the sail? I have an in mast furling and have always just partially furled the sail as wind speed picks up. Probably a simple question but I have no experience lowering the boom ( on purpose).
>> 
>> John Waldhausen
>> 
>>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 7:59 AM, Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The pin on the boom allows you to move the boom up and down in response to wind conditions.  There is a series of holes in the mast that the pin clicks into.  I think most of us sail with the boom "in the up" position.  In this position, the pop top can be raised up.  The pop stop slider has its own pin that clicks in to hold it up.  When conditions dictate, you can drop the pop top down (by pulling the pin) and then lower the boom (and thus the main) down to a lower position.  - Rob
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Waldhausen
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 10:40 AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
>>> 
>>> Since I never drop my mast, I'm not sure what the pin is even for. I assumed it was so the mast could drop. What is it's actual use?
>>> 
>>> John Waldhausen
>>> Bainbridge Island
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 5:53 AM, Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Any idea where these pins can be found?  I pulled my main out of the mast yesterday and notice the pin on my slider is missing all together.
>>>> 
>>>> Billy,
>>>> I'm also interested in your replacement.  Doesn't sound like it's
>>>> readily adjusted up and down like the pin system?? - rob
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of John Waldhausen
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 4:41 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom pin
>>>> 
>>>> It appears to me that the pin only engages the hole in the mast by about 1/8 inch and that a longer pin would help but I'm not sure how to change it for a longer one.
>>>> 
>>>> John Waldhausen
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 4:20 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I?ve had this happen a couple of times last season, but only when I was away from the boat, never underway.  I?d come back to the boat after being away for a week or so, and the mast end of the boom would be down at the cabin top.  How this happens has been an unsolved mystery. I don?t have a solution, but if anyone does, I too would be interested in hearing it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peter Nyberg
>>>>> Coventry, CT
>>>>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 4:08 PM, John Waldhausen <waldjh1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>> I have a 2012 Rhodes and have found on several occasions that the pin that holds the boom in place on the mast has come out and caused the boom to drop (once at an inopportune time when I was trying to get out of the way of a race in progress). I usually single had the boat and in a low wind its not a problem as I can just just push the boom back up and the pin locks into place again, but in a higher wind (above 15 knots, the force is considerable and its challenging alone). Have any of you dealt with this issue and if so what have you done about it?
>>>>>> John
>>>>>> Bainbridge Island
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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