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Marc Berson
Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4538, Issue 1
2024-03-04; 11:42:48 EST
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2003-03-22
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RE: Stan and List Hi All, I am a Rhodes 22 owner since the mid 90’s and read every word of every posting on the list😊 I don’t remember the last time I posted, but want you all to know that I appreciate all of the support, information that you provide to our community. I have known Stan for many years, and sailed with him from his home in Edenton many years ago prior to purchasing my boat. Please send my regards to Stan for a happy meeting for birthday. Peter, I regularly view your YouTube videos, and it has been an enormous help with many projects on my 1985 boat. Thanks Marc Berson s/v Shpilkes Sent from my iPhoneSee the original archive post
> On Mar 3, 2024, at 4:46 PM, rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org wrote: > > Send Rhodes22-list mailing list submissions to > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > rhodes22-list-owner at rhodes22.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Rhodes22-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Bunk spacing on a boat lift (Chris Geankoplis) > 2. Re: Bunk spacing on a boat lift (Donald Simons) > 3. Re: Bunk spacing on a boat lift (BARRY RUEHLEN) > 4. Re: Bunk spacing on a boat lift (Peter Nyberg) > 5. Beautiful 2009/2014 Rhodes 22 for Sale (Jeff Smith Photo) > 6. Re: Bunk spacing on a boat lift (Ken Simolo) > 7. Re: Bunk spacing on a boat lift (Chris Geankoplis) > 8. Re: Bunk spacing on a boat lift (BARRY RUEHLEN) > 9. Re: Bunk spacing on a boat lift (BARRY RUEHLEN) > 10. Stan's Birthday (Michael Corley) > 11. Re: Stan's Birthday (Donald Simons) > 12. Re: Stan's Birthday (Scott Andrews) > 13. Re: Bunk spacing on a boat lift (Donald Simons) > 14. Re: Bunk spacing on a boat lift (BARRY RUEHLEN) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 16:26:29 -0600 > From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk spacing on a boat lift > Message-ID: > <CADNTwiVhHKzaocJz-P26hjOvscADD_cvdCKnXTC-tmb=8tActA at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hey Barry, > Peter Klappert had an electric lift for his boat built in > Palmento Fl. If you reach out to him he may have have the spects. > Chris Geankoplis > >> On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 12:30?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote: >> >> We have made significant progress on the rebuild of our Rhodes22. In the >> next few days we should be able to launch her and find out if she floats. >> The question for the group pertains to bunk spacing on a boatlift that I'm >> having installed now. Typical boatlift bunks are straight, as there are >> only two support beams on a lift , and they are over 8' apart. I'm assuming >> that the bunks would want to be fairly close to the shoal keel, maybe >> around 18" or so inbetween. I would like to have them a bit wider, but I'm >> not sure about the bottom strength of a sailboat. We will try to get away >> without the second set of support bunks higher up on the bow. I will >> attempt to attach a picture of a typical lift showing the straight bunks I >> will be dealing with. >> Barry Ruehlen >> Sv Perseverance 1987 >> Saint James City, Fl >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of >> Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 9:18 AM >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electric start outboard wiring >> >> My electric start outboard was installed by Stan at the factory in 2014 >> and he just connected the outboard to a block in the lazarette with the >> winch. >> >> Bob >> Beach Spring >> ________________________________ >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of >> Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 7:53 AM >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric start outboard wiring >> >> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments. >> >> For those with electric start outboards, did you make the electric >> connection at the winch or did you run wires back to the battery under the >> settee? If the latter, what gauge wire did you use? >> I'm installing a Tohatsu 8hp electric start outboard >> --Reuben >> Reuben Mezrich >> cell: 410-499-8922 >> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: pro-GQK8JelF.jpeg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 902730 bytes >> Desc: pro-GQK8JelF.jpeg >> URL: < >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240227/c88a5e5b/attachment.jpeg >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: pro-LcIsHLDB.jpeg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 908297 bytes >> Desc: pro-LcIsHLDB.jpeg >> URL: < >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240227/c88a5e5b/attachment-0001.jpeg >>> >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 03:02:01 +0000 (UTC) > From: Donald Simons <borderfolle at yahoo.com> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk spacing on a boat lift > Message-ID: <724165526.947623.1709089322553 at mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Barry, > Last summer I set up an aluminum boat lift for our Rhodes.? I closely mimicked the bunk location that is on our Triad tandem axle trailer.? Our lift is used and came with the flat supports.? It had been used for a 22' powerboat.? I added the vertical bunks to guide the keel when positioning the boat.? If helpful, I can take some photos and forward them to you as the boat is not on the lift right now. > Don Simons, Old Forge, NY > On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 09:41:59 PM EST, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote: > > Hey Barry, > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Peter Klappert had an electric lift for his boat built in > Palmento Fl.? If you reach out to him he may have have the spects. > Chris Geankoplis > >> On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 12:30?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote: >> >> We have made significant progress on the rebuild of our Rhodes22. In the >> next few days we should be able to launch her and find out if she floats. >> The question for the group pertains to bunk spacing on a boatlift that I'm >> having installed now. Typical boatlift bunks are straight, as there are >> only two support beams on a lift , and they are over 8' apart. I'm assuming >> that the bunks would want to be fairly close to the shoal keel, maybe >> around 18" or so inbetween. I would like to have them a bit wider, but I'm >> not sure about the bottom strength of a sailboat.? We will try to get away >> without the second set of support bunks higher up on the bow. I will >> attempt to attach a picture of a typical lift showing the straight bunks I >> will be dealing with. >> Barry Ruehlen >> Sv Perseverance 1987 >> Saint James City, Fl >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of >> Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 9:18 AM >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electric start outboard wiring >> >> My electric start outboard was installed by Stan at the factory in 2014 >> and he just connected the outboard to a block in the lazarette with the >> winch. >> >> Bob >> Beach Spring >> ________________________________ >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of >> Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 7:53 AM >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric start outboard wiring >> >> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments. >> >> For those with electric start outboards, did you make the electric >> connection at the winch or did you run wires back to the battery under the >> settee? If the latter, what gauge wire did you use? >> I'm installing a Tohatsu 8hp electric start outboard >> --Reuben >> Reuben Mezrich >> cell: 410-499-8922 >> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: pro-GQK8JelF.jpeg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 902730 bytes >> Desc: pro-GQK8JelF.jpeg >> URL: < >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240227/c88a5e5b/attachment.jpeg >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: pro-LcIsHLDB.jpeg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 908297 bytes >> Desc: pro-LcIsHLDB.jpeg >> URL: < >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240227/c88a5e5b/attachment-0001.jpeg >>> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 20231005_102129 (1).jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 4299631 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240228/038091b2/attachment.jpg> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 16:30:12 +0000 > From: BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> > To: Donald Simons <borderfolle at yahoo.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk spacing on a boat lift > Message-ID: > <IA1PR19MB6498D539A907F60242302C21C1582 at IA1PR19MB6498.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thank you .Don, Rick, Peter,Mike,Todd, Chris, Everyone > Don a picture would be very helpful. > As always, the group comes forth with much information and help. I have read many postings over the past two and a half years of our Rhodes restoration, and bunk placement and bearing areas is still very confusing to me. (our Rhodes came on some half baked old sailboat trailer). I have read that even though the centerboard hangs proud of the keel, it is ok to rest the boat on it, and I've read that it is not ok to rest the boat on it. I have read that the best place to support the boat is close to the keel where the structure is thickest, and the side supports are just for stabilization, and I have read the opposite. In fact I believe that I have read that too much support on the side bunks can cause deformity in the hull. The trailer diagrams that the group just sent me show great dimensions for a side support system, but the actual trailer pictures of a Triad show bottom support close to the keel. and additional side supports. > I suspect that the best supporting system for a boatlift might be to have the bottom straight bunks close to the keel as in the picture for main support, and then side supports per the CAD drawing with firm to moderate bearing support. > Sorry for my confusion. We've put a lot of love into this Rhodes restoration, and I don't want to screw this up. > Best, > Barry Ruehlen > S/V Perserverance '87 > > ________________________________ > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 10:02 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk spacing on a boat lift > > Hi Barry, > Last summer I set up an aluminum boat lift for our Rhodes. I closely mimicked the bunk location that is on our Triad tandem axle trailer. Our lift is used and came with the flat supports. It had been used for a 22' powerboat. I added the vertical bunks to guide the keel when positioning the boat. If helpful, I can take some photos and forward them to you as the boat is not on the lift right now. > Don Simons, Old Forge, NY > On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 09:41:59 PM EST, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote: > > Hey Barry, > Peter Klappert had an electric lift for his boat built in > Palmento Fl. If you reach out to him he may have have the spects. > Chris Geankoplis > >> On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 12:30?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote: >> >> We have made significant progress on the rebuild of our Rhodes22. In the >> next few days we should be able to launch her and find out if she floats. >> The question for the group pertains to bunk spacing on a boatlift that I'm >> having installed now. Typical boatlift bunks are straight, as there are >> only two support beams on a lift , and they are over 8' apart. I'm assuming >> that the bunks would want to be fairly close to the shoal keel, maybe >> around 18" or so inbetween. I would like to have them a bit wider, but I'm >> not sure about the bottom strength of a sailboat. We will try to get away >> without the second set of support bunks higher up on the bow. I will >> attempt to attach a picture of a typical lift showing the straight bunks I >> will be dealing with. >> Barry Ruehlen >> Sv Perseverance 1987 >> Saint James City, Fl >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of >> Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 9:18 AM >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electric start outboard wiring >> >> My electric start outboard was installed by Stan at the factory in 2014 >> and he just connected the outboard to a block in the lazarette with the >> winch. >> >> Bob >> Beach Spring >> ________________________________ >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of >> Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 7:53 AM >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric start outboard wiring >> >> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments. >> >> For those with electric start outboards, did you make the electric >> connection at the winch or did you run wires back to the battery under the >> settee? If the latter, what gauge wire did you use? >> I'm installing a Tohatsu 8hp electric start outboard >> --Reuben >> Reuben Mezrich >> cell: 410-499-8922 >> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: pro-GQK8JelF.jpeg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 902730 bytes >> Desc: pro-GQK8JelF.jpeg >> URL: < >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240227%2Fc88a5e5b%2Fattachment.jpeg&data=05%7C02%7C%7C1b3d546683f945e8ea5808dc3809a6be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638446861319048326%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=OXtfYeXS%2F%2B3RpEMu4cese897o3Flm3as%2Fa2t307ecBA%3D&reserved=0<http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240227/c88a5e5b/attachment.jpeg> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: pro-LcIsHLDB.jpeg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 908297 bytes >> Desc: pro-LcIsHLDB.jpeg >> URL: < >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240227%2Fc88a5e5b%2Fattachment-0001.jpeg&data=05%7C02%7C%7C1b3d546683f945e8ea5808dc3809a6be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638446861319058584%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=EwfGfKacuGwHtR0J5sv8MH85xiwk1ML78pELPUba%2Byo%3D&reserved=0<http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240227/c88a5e5b/attachment-0001.jpeg> >>> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 20231005_102129 (1).jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 4299631 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240228%2F038091b2%2Fattachment.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7C1b3d546683f945e8ea5808dc3809a6be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638446861319067172%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3qHqTtdfEXtXswM%2F1FgFM04ff5%2BKp1qIf1N678XegEs%3D&reserved=0<http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240228/038091b2/attachment.jpg>> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 1000001848.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 727893 bytes > Desc: 1000001848.jpg > URL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240228/ea264ab9/attachment.jpg> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 09:42:39 -0800 > From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk spacing on a boat lift > Message-ID: <E1rfNx1-0090FX-2r at s152.servername.online> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Barry, > > On the 'official' Rhodes 22 trailer, the lower 'supports' close to the keel are actually guides. These serve to center the boat on the trailer. As the boat and trailer are pulled from the water, the boat settles onto the upper supports. No weight is actually carried by the guide rails. > > --Peter > >> On 2024-02-28, at 11:30:12 EST, BARRY RUEHLEN wrote: >> >> Thank you .Don, Rick, Peter,Mike,Todd, Chris, Everyone >> Don a picture would be very helpful. >> As always, the group comes forth with much information and help. I have read >> many postings over the past two and a half years of our Rhodes restoration, and >> bunk placement and bearing areas is still very confusing to me. (our Rhodes came >> on some half baked old sailboat trailer). I have read that even though the >> centerboard hangs proud of the keel, it is ok to rest the boat on it, and I've >> read that it is not ok to rest the boat on it. I have read that the best place >> to support the boat is close to the keel where the structure is thickest, and >> the side supports are just for stabilization, and I have read the opposite. In >> fact I believe that I have read that too much support on the side bunks can >> cause deformity in the hull. The trailer diagrams that the group just sent me >> show great dimensions for a side support system, but the actual trailer pictures >> of a Triad show bottom support close to the keel. and additional side supports. >> I suspect that the best supporting system for a boatlift might be to have the >> bottom straight bunks close to the keel as in the picture for main support, and >> then side supports per the CAD drawing with firm to moderate bearing support. >> Sorry for my confusion. We've put a lot of love into this Rhodes restoration, >> and I don't want to screw this up. >> Best, >> Barry Ruehlen >> S/V Perserverance '87 >> >> >> <a >> href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240228%2F038091b2%2Fattachment.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7C1b3d546683f945e8ea5808dc3809a6be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638446861319067172%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3qHqTtdfEXtXswM%2F1FgFM04ff5%2BKp1qIf1N678XegEs%3D&reserved=0<http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240228/038091b2/attachment.jpg" >> target="_blank">20231005_102129 (1).jpg</a> >> >> <a >> href="http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240228/ea264ab9/attachment.jpg" >> target="_blank">1000001848.jpg</a> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 13:25:58 -0500 > From: Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Beautiful 2009/2014 Rhodes 22 for Sale > Message-ID: > <CAM0HAmkX64+YNJ2O=JBcFxP0_oZDnFGagRqv=6qEjAqMo4cF2Q at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > It is with a heavy heart that I am offering up our lovingly cared for > RADIANT for Sale. The boat has allmost all of the Rhodes upgrades and a > Trident Trailer with new surge disk bakes last year. > She has been trailered and cruised from our home in New Jersey to the > Choptank River in the Chesapeake Bay, to Penobscot Bay in Maine and to the > North Channel above Lake Huron. > If you are in the market for a great Trailerable Cruising Boat, don't miss > this opportunity. > For equipment list and details contact me. > > Best Regards > Jeff Smith > Jeffphoto at duck.com > www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net > 732-236-1368 > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 14:04:47 -0800 > From: Ken Simolo <kensimolo at gmail.com> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk spacing on a boat lift > Message-ID: > <CAK_z4Dqv0y=n6Qeunmf1qq-PCAP+MEDd7dNJZdcySX=-=LhJmQ at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > We can certainly tell on our boat where the bunks hit the hull. But it has > been resting on the bunks for 7 months out of the year for 36 years. > > Ken > > > On February 28, 2024 at 11:37:26?AM, BARRY RUEHLEN (ruehbl at msn.com) wrote: > > Thank you .Don, Rick, Peter,Mike,Todd, Chris, Everyone > Don a picture would be very helpful. > As always, the group comes forth with much information and help. I have > read many postings over the past two and a half years of our Rhodes > restoration, and bunk placement and bearing areas is still very confusing > to me. (our Rhodes came on some half baked old sailboat trailer). I have > read that even though the centerboard hangs proud of the keel, it is ok to > rest the boat on it, and I've read that it is not ok to rest the boat on > it. I have read that the best place to support the boat is close to the > keel where the structure is thickest, and the side supports are just for > stabilization, and I have read the opposite. In fact I believe that I have > read that too much support on the side bunks can cause deformity in the > hull. The trailer diagrams that the group just sent me show great > dimensions for a side support system, but the actual trailer pictures of a > Triad show bottom support close to the keel. and additional side supports. > I suspect that the best supporting system for a boatlift might be to have > the bottom straight bunks close to the keel as in the picture for main > support, and then side supports per the CAD drawing with firm to moderate > bearing support. > Sorry for my confusion. We've put a lot of love into this Rhodes > restoration, and I don't want to screw this up. > Best, > Barry Ruehlen > S/V Perserverance '87 > > ________________________________ > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of > Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 10:02 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk spacing on a boat lift > > Hi Barry, > Last summer I set up an aluminum boat lift for our Rhodes. I closely > mimicked the bunk location that is on our Triad tandem axle trailer. Our > lift is used and came with the flat supports. It had been used for a 22' > powerboat. I added the vertical bunks to guide the keel when positioning > the boat. If helpful, I can take some photos and forward them to you as the > boat is not on the lift right now. > Don Simons, Old Forge, NY > On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 09:41:59 PM EST, Chris Geankoplis < > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote: > > Hey Barry, > Peter Klappert had an electric lift for his boat built in > Palmento Fl. If you reach out to him he may have have the spects. > Chris Geankoplis > >> On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 12:30?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote: >> >> We have made significant progress on the rebuild of our Rhodes22. In the >> next few days we should be able to launch her and find out if she floats. >> The question for the group pertains to bunk spacing on a boatlift that > I'm >> having installed now. Typical boatlift bunks are straight, as there are >> only two support beams on a lift , and they are over 8' apart. I'm > assuming >> that the bunks would want to be fairly close to the shoal keel, maybe >> around 18" or so inbetween. I would like to have them a bit wider, but > I'm >> not sure about the bottom strength of a sailboat. We will try to get away >> without the second set of support bunks higher up on the bow. I will >> attempt to attach a picture of a typical lift showing the straight bunks > I >> will be dealing with. >> Barry Ruehlen >> Sv Perseverance 1987 >> Saint James City, Fl >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of >> Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 9:18 AM >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electric start outboard wiring >> >> My electric start outboard was installed by Stan at the factory in 2014 >> and he just connected the outboard to a block in the lazarette with the >> winch. >> >> Bob >> Beach Spring >> ________________________________ >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of >> Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 7:53 AM >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric start outboard wiring >> >> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or > attachments. >> >> For those with electric start outboards, did you make the electric >> connection at the winch or did you run wires back to the battery under > the >> settee? If the latter, what gauge wire did you use? >> I'm installing a Tohatsu 8hp electric start outboard >> --Reuben >> Reuben Mezrich >> cell: 410-499-8922 >> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: pro-GQK8JelF.jpeg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 902730 bytes >> Desc: pro-GQK8JelF.jpeg >> URL: < >> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240227%2Fc88a5e5b%2Fattachment.jpeg&data=05%7C02%7C%7C1b3d546683f945e8ea5808dc3809a6be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638446861319048326%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=OXtfYeXS%2F%2B3RpEMu4cese897o3Flm3as%2Fa2t307ecBA%3D&reserved=0 > < > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240227/c88a5e5b/attachment.jpeg> > >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: pro-LcIsHLDB.jpeg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 908297 bytes >> Desc: pro-LcIsHLDB.jpeg >> URL: < >> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240227%2Fc88a5e5b%2Fattachment-0001.jpeg&data=05%7C02%7C%7C1b3d546683f945e8ea5808dc3809a6be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638446861319058584%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=EwfGfKacuGwHtR0J5sv8MH85xiwk1ML78pELPUba%2Byo%3D&reserved=0 > < > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240227/c88a5e5b/attachment-0001.jpeg> > >>> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 20231005_102129 (1).jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 4299631 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240228%2F038091b2%2Fattachment.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7C1b3d546683f945e8ea5808dc3809a6be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638446861319067172%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3qHqTtdfEXtXswM%2F1FgFM04ff5%2BKp1qIf1N678XegEs%3D&reserved=0 > < > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240228/038091b2/attachment.jpg>> > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 1000001848.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 727893 bytes > Desc: 1000001848.jpg > URL: < > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240228/ea264ab9/attachment.jpg >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 16:18:17 -0600 > From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk spacing on a boat lift > Message-ID: > <CADNTwiX0BmQNghKHHm+ecMndyYLPfTVOraBH3LPFG4wgJZ7t_w at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > What a well loved and cherished vessel. I have similar dents on my old > bottom after 73 years, and on my boat. > Chris Geankoplis > Sv XENOS > >> On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 5:04?PM Ken Simolo <kensimolo at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> We can certainly tell on our boat where the bunks hit the hull. But it has >> been resting on the bunks for 7 months out of the year for 36 years. >> >> Ken >> >> >> On February 28, 2024 at 11:37:26?AM, BARRY RUEHLEN (ruehbl at msn.com) wrote: >> >> Thank you .Don, Rick, Peter,Mike,Todd, Chris, Everyone >> Don a picture would be very helpful. >> As always, the group comes forth with much information and help. I have >> read many postings over the past two and a half years of our Rhodes >> restoration, and bunk placement and bearing areas is still very confusing >> to me. (our Rhodes came on some half baked old sailboat trailer). I have >> read that even though the centerboard hangs proud of the keel, it is ok to >> rest the boat on it, and I've read that it is not ok to rest the boat on >> it. I have read that the best place to support the boat is close to the >> keel where the structure is thickest, and the side supports are just for >> stabilization, and I have read the opposite. In fact I believe that I have >> read that too much support on the side bunks can cause deformity in the >> hull. The trailer diagrams that the group just sent me show great >> dimensions for a side support system, but the actual trailer pictures of a >> Triad show bottom support close to the keel. and additional side supports. >> I suspect that the best supporting system for a boatlift might be to have >> the bottom straight bunks close to the keel as in the picture for main >> support, and then side supports per the CAD drawing with firm to moderate >> bearing support. >> Sorry for my confusion. We've put a lot of love into this Rhodes >> restoration, and I don't want to screw this up. >> Best, >> Barry Ruehlen >> S/V Perserverance '87 >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of >> Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 10:02 PM >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk spacing on a boat lift >> >> Hi Barry, >> Last summer I set up an aluminum boat lift for our Rhodes. I closely >> mimicked the bunk location that is on our Triad tandem axle trailer. Our >> lift is used and came with the flat supports. It had been used for a 22' >> powerboat. I added the vertical bunks to guide the keel when positioning >> the boat. If helpful, I can take some photos and forward them to you as the >> boat is not on the lift right now. >> Don Simons, Old Forge, NY >> On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 09:41:59 PM EST, Chris Geankoplis < >> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hey Barry, >> Peter Klappert had an electric lift for his boat built in >> Palmento Fl. If you reach out to him he may have have the spects. >> Chris Geankoplis >> >>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 12:30?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote: >>> >>> We have made significant progress on the rebuild of our Rhodes22. In the >>> next few days we should be able to launch her and find out if she floats. >>> The question for the group pertains to bunk spacing on a boatlift that >> I'm >>> having installed now. Typical boatlift bunks are straight, as there are >>> only two support beams on a lift , and they are over 8' apart. I'm >> assuming >>> that the bunks would want to be fairly close to the shoal keel, maybe >>> around 18" or so inbetween. I would like to have them a bit wider, but >> I'm >>> not sure about the bottom strength of a sailboat. We will try to get away >>> without the second set of support bunks higher up on the bow. I will >>> attempt to attach a picture of a typical lift showing the straight bunks >> I >>> will be dealing with. >>> Barry Ruehlen >>> Sv Perseverance 1987 >>> Saint James City, Fl >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of >>> Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 9:18 AM >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electric start outboard wiring >>> >>> My electric start outboard was installed by Stan at the factory in 2014 >>> and he just connected the outboard to a block in the lazarette with the >>> winch. >>> >>> Bob >>> Beach Spring >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of >>> Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 7:53 AM >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric start outboard wiring >>> >>> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or >> attachments. >>> >>> For those with electric start outboards, did you make the electric >>> connection at the winch or did you run wires back to the battery under >> the >>> settee? If the latter, what gauge wire did you use? >>> I'm installing a Tohatsu 8hp electric start outboard >>> --Reuben >>> Reuben Mezrich >>> cell: 410-499-8922 >>> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: pro-GQK8JelF.jpeg >>> Type: image/jpeg >>> Size: 902730 bytes >>> Desc: pro-GQK8JelF.jpeg >>> URL: < >>> >> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240227%2Fc88a5e5b%2Fattachment.jpeg&data=05%7C02%7C%7C1b3d546683f945e8ea5808dc3809a6be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638446861319048326%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=OXtfYeXS%2F%2B3RpEMu4cese897o3Flm3as%2Fa2t307ecBA%3D&reserved=0 >> < >> >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240227/c88a5e5b/attachment.jpeg >>> >> >>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: pro-LcIsHLDB.jpeg >>> Type: image/jpeg >>> Size: 908297 bytes >>> Desc: pro-LcIsHLDB.jpeg >>> URL: < >>> >> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240227%2Fc88a5e5b%2Fattachment-0001.jpeg&data=05%7C02%7C%7C1b3d546683f945e8ea5808dc3809a6be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638446861319058584%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=EwfGfKacuGwHtR0J5sv8MH85xiwk1ML78pELPUba%2Byo%3D&reserved=0 >> < >> >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240227/c88a5e5b/attachment-0001.jpeg >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: 20231005_102129 (1).jpg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 4299631 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: < >> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240228%2F038091b2%2Fattachment.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7C1b3d546683f945e8ea5808dc3809a6be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638446861319067172%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3qHqTtdfEXtXswM%2F1FgFM04ff5%2BKp1qIf1N678XegEs%3D&reserved=0 >> < >> >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240228/038091b2/attachment.jpg >>>> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: 1000001848.jpg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 727893 bytes >> Desc: 1000001848.jpg >> URL: < >> >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240228/ea264ab9/attachment.jpg >>> >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 13:54:48 +0000 > From: BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk spacing on a boat lift > Message-ID: > <IA1PR19MB6498F87E49C33FFC94EB2F78C15F2 at IA1PR19MB6498.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Peter, > Thanks so much for that clarification on loading and bearing points. I had assumed the opposite. Main bearing on the bottom and minor support on the sides. With your knowledge, the drawing dimensions, and the picture of a Rhodes on a lift, I will proceed to configure the supports on my new lift to come as close as I can to that information. I will try to rebuild the trailer for a better fit as well. > Best, > Barry > ________________________________ > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 12:42 PM > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk spacing on a boat lift > > Barry, > > On the 'official' Rhodes 22 trailer, the lower 'supports' close to the keel are actually guides. These serve to center the boat on the trailer. As the boat and trailer are pulled from the water, the boat settles onto the upper supports. No weight is actually carried by the guide rails. > > --Peter > >> On 2024-02-28, at 11:30:12 EST, BARRY RUEHLEN wrote: >> >> Thank you .Don, Rick, Peter,Mike,Todd, Chris, Everyone >> Don a picture would be very helpful. >> As always, the group comes forth with much information and help. I have read >> many postings over the past two and a half years of our Rhodes restoration, and >> bunk placement and bearing areas is still very confusing to me. (our Rhodes came >> on some half baked old sailboat trailer). I have read that even though the >> centerboard hangs proud of the keel, it is ok to rest the boat on it, and I've >> read that it is not ok to rest the boat on it. I have read that the best place >> to support the boat is close to the keel where the structure is thickest, and >> the side supports are just for stabilization, and I have read the opposite. In >> fact I believe that I have read that too much support on the side bunks can >> cause deformity in the hull. The trailer diagrams that the group just sent me >> show great dimensions for a side support system, but the actual trailer pictures >> of a Triad show bottom support close to the keel. and additional side supports. >> I suspect that the best supporting system for a boatlift might be to have the >> bottom straight bunks close to the keel as in the picture for main support, and >> then side supports per the CAD drawing with firm to moderate bearing support. >> Sorry for my confusion. We've put a lot of love into this Rhodes restoration, >> and I don't want to screw this up. >> Best, >> Barry Ruehlen >> S/V Perserverance '87 >> >> >> <a >> href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240228%2F038091b2%2Fattachment.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ca60335ba1bba4ad836c608dc3884ac29%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638447389687578368%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=0DtlMBqb%2FsYr6lNPxpCpJF3O5tYcghdsZSlZE%2Bfty2Y%3D&reserved=0<http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240228/038091b2/attachment.jpg>" >> target="_blank">20231005_102129 (1).jpg</a> >> >> <a >> href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240228%2Fea264ab9%2Fattachment.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ca60335ba1bba4ad836c608dc3884ac29%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638447389687587396%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=EmoyaCqwP%2BcSPXR%2Fd1YZ5egZhbPmhyvDOjzDVzm4KD4%3D&reserved=0<http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240228/ea264ab9/attachment.jpg>" >> target="_blank">1000001848.jpg</a> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 13:56:14 +0000 > From: BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk spacing on a boat lift > Message-ID: > <IA1PR19MB6498F87E49C33FFC94EB2F78C15F2 at IA1PR19MB6498.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Peter, > Thanks so much for that clarification on loading and bearing points. I had assumed the opposite. Main bearing on the bottom and minor support on the sides. With your knowledge, the drawing dimensions, and the picture of a Rhodes on a lift, I will proceed to configure the supports on my new lift to come as close as I can to that information. I will try to rebuild the trailer for a better fit as well. > Best, > Barry > ________________________________ > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 12:42 PM > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk spacing on a boat lift > > Barry, > > On the 'official' Rhodes 22 trailer, the lower 'supports' close to the keel are actually guides. These serve to center the boat on the trailer. As the boat and trailer are pulled from the water, the boat settles onto the upper supports. No weight is actually carried by the guide rails. > > --Peter > >> On 2024-02-28, at 11:30:12 EST, BARRY RUEHLEN wrote: >> >> Thank you .Don, Rick, Peter,Mike,Todd, Chris, Everyone >> Don a picture would be very helpful. >> As always, the group comes forth with much information and help. I have read >> many postings over the past two and a half years of our Rhodes restoration, and >> bunk placement and bearing areas is still very confusing to me. (our Rhodes came >> on some half baked old sailboat trailer). I have read that even though the >> centerboard hangs proud of the keel, it is ok to rest the boat on it, and I've >> read that it is not ok to rest the boat on it. I have read that the best place >> to support the boat is close to the keel where the structure is thickest, and >> the side supports are just for stabilization, and I have read the opposite. In >> fact I believe that I have read that too much support on the side bunks can >> cause deformity in the hull. The trailer diagrams that the group just sent me >> show great dimensions for a side support system, but the actual trailer pictures >> of a Triad show bottom support close to the keel. and additional side supports. >> I suspect that the best supporting system for a boatlift might be to have the >> bottom straight bunks close to the keel as in the picture for main support, and >> then side supports per the CAD drawing with firm to moderate bearing support. >> Sorry for my confusion. We've put a lot of love into this Rhodes restoration, >> and I don't want to screw this up. >> Best, >> Barry Ruehlen >> S/V Perserverance '87 >> >> >> <a >> href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240228%2F038091b2%2Fattachment.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ca60335ba1bba4ad836c608dc3884ac29%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638447389687578368%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=0DtlMBqb%2FsYr6lNPxpCpJF3O5tYcghdsZSlZE%2Bfty2Y%3D&reserved=0<http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240228/038091b2/attachment.jpg>" >> target="_blank">20231005_102129 (1).jpg</a> >> >> <a >> href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240228%2Fea264ab9%2Fattachment.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ca60335ba1bba4ad836c608dc3884ac29%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638447389687587396%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=EmoyaCqwP%2BcSPXR%2Fd1YZ5egZhbPmhyvDOjzDVzm4KD4%3D&reserved=0<http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240228/ea264ab9/attachment.jpg>" >> target="_blank">1000001848.jpg</a> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 18:14:39 -0500 > From: Michael Corley <michael.4591 at gmail.com> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Birthday > Message-ID: > <CACSd1jKfm52Mr20T5xYwHDsAKeOAOM79EeHTN5YTuR8TPA6EoQ at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > For those of you who have sent cards and notes thru me to Stan they have > all been delivered and he really appreciated hearing from you. > Stan will turn 98 on Mar 11th. He is doing OK, and loves hearing from > people on the list, almost all of whom he considers to be his friends. He > is not up on email, but you can send mail to him directly at: > > Stan Spitzer, Apt 252 > 3540 Victory Blvd. > Yorktown, VA 23693 > > -Mike Corley > S/V Ranger > Hampton Roads, VA > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 01:47:36 +0000 (UTC) > From: Donald Simons <borderfolle at yahoo.com> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Birthday > Message-ID: <1010445239.1523702.1709257656397 at mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thank-you Mike.? I have fond memories of Stan's 88th Birthday party at the plant.? I'm not sure I can get to see him by 3/11, but will send him a card.? I recently mailed him a letter with photos. > Don Simons, Old Forge, NY > On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 08:42:15 PM EST, Michael Corley <michael.4591 at gmail.com> wrote: > > For those of you who have sent cards and notes thru me to Stan they have > all been delivered and he really appreciated hearing from you. > Stan will turn 98 on Mar 11th.? He is doing OK, and loves hearing from > people on the list, almost all of whom he considers to be his friends.? He > is not up on email, but you can send mail to him directly at: > > Stan Spitzer, Apt 252 > 3540 Victory Blvd. > Yorktown, VA? 23693 > > -Mike Corley > S/V Ranger > Hampton Roads, VA > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 10:36:01 -0500 > From: Scott Andrews <sea20 at verizon.net> > To: Donald Simons <borderfolle at yahoo.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Birthday > Message-ID: <2B7CDDCF-9284-435C-B342-73924CD15DF5 at verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Thanks Mike!! > Scott A. > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 29, 2024, at 8:47?PM, Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >> >> ? Thank-you Mike. I have fond memories of Stan's 88th Birthday party at the plant. I'm not sure I can get to see him by 3/11, but will send him a card. I recently mailed him a letter with photos. >> Don Simons, Old Forge, NY >> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 08:42:15 PM EST, Michael Corley <michael.4591 at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> For those of you who have sent cards and notes thru me to Stan they have >> all been delivered and he really appreciated hearing from you. >> Stan will turn 98 on Mar 11th. He is doing OK, and loves hearing from >> people on the list, almost all of whom he considers to be his friends. He >> is not up on email, but you can send mail to him directly at: >> >> Stan Spitzer, Apt 252 >> 3540 Victory Blvd. >> Yorktown, VA 23693 >> >> -Mike Corley >> S/V Ranger >> Hampton Roads, VA >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2024 18:16:07 +0000 (UTC) > From: Donald Simons <borderfolle at yahoo.com> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk spacing on a boat lift > Message-ID: <1012472070.1991862.1709489768601 at mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Barry, Attached are 2 photos of how I have our lift set up. > Don Simons, Old Forge, NY > On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 10:12:15 AM EST, BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote: > > Peter, > Thanks so much for that clarification on loading and bearing points. I had assumed the opposite. Main bearing on the bottom and minor support on the sides. With your knowledge, the drawing dimensions, and the picture of a Rhodes on a lift, I will proceed to configure the supports on my new lift to come as close as I can to that information. I will try to rebuild the trailer for a better fit as well. > Best, > Barry > ________________________________ > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 12:42 PM > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk spacing on a boat lift > > Barry, > > On the 'official' Rhodes 22 trailer, the lower 'supports' close to the keel are actually guides.? These serve to center the boat on the trailer.? As the boat and trailer are pulled from the water, the boat settles onto the upper supports.? No weight is actually carried by the guide rails. > > --Peter > >> On 2024-02-28, at 11:30:12 EST, BARRY RUEHLEN wrote: >> >> Thank you .Don, Rick, Peter,Mike,Todd, Chris, Everyone >> Don a picture would be very helpful. >> ? As always, the group comes forth with much information and help. I have read >> many postings over the past two and a half years of our Rhodes restoration, and >> bunk placement and bearing areas is still very confusing to me. (our Rhodes came >> on some half baked old sailboat trailer). I have read that even though the >> centerboard hangs proud of the keel, it is ok to rest the boat on it, and I've >> read that it is not ok to rest the boat on it. I have read that the best place >> to support the boat is close to the keel where the structure is thickest, and >> the side supports are just for stabilization, and I have read the opposite. In >> fact I believe that I have read that too much support on the side bunks can >> cause deformity in the hull. The trailer diagrams that the group just sent me >> show great dimensions for a side support system, but the actual trailer pictures >> of a Triad show bottom support close to the keel. and additional side supports. >> ? I suspect that the best supporting system for a boatlift might be to have the >> bottom straight bunks close to the keel as in the picture for main support, and >> then side supports per the CAD drawing with firm to moderate bearing support. >> ? Sorry for my confusion. We've put a lot of love into this Rhodes restoration, >> and I don't want to screw this up. >> Best, >> Barry Ruehlen >> S/V Perserverance '87 >> >> >> <a >> href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240228%2F038091b2%2Fattachment.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ca60335ba1bba4ad836c608dc3884ac29%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638447389687578368%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=0DtlMBqb%2FsYr6lNPxpCpJF3O5tYcghdsZSlZE%2Bfty2Y%3D&reserved=0<http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240228/038091b2/attachment.jpg>" >> target="_blank">20231005_102129 (1).jpg</a> >> >> <a >> href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240228%2Fea264ab9%2Fattachment.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ca60335ba1bba4ad836c608dc3884ac29%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638447389687587396%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=EmoyaCqwP%2BcSPXR%2Fd1YZ5egZhbPmhyvDOjzDVzm4KD4%3D&reserved=0<http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240228/ea264ab9/attachment.jpg>" >> target="_blank">1000001848.jpg</a> >> > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 20240302_163345.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 3627545 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240303/0d1d4811/attachment.jpg> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 20240302_163326.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 3006291 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240303/0d1d4811/attachment-0001.jpg> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2024 21:46:15 +0000 > From: BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> > To: Donald Simons <borderfolle at yahoo.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk spacing on a boat lift > Message-ID: > <IA1PR19MB6498701525E61D45AFC46455C15C2 at IA1PR19MB6498.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Great pictures Donald, > That was a flurry of very useful knowledge by the group. Thank you all. I am now confident that I can fabricate a proper lift and trailer. I'll take a couple of progress pictures along the way for future reference for anyone else with this question. > Best, > Barry Ruehlen > S/V Perseverance '87 > > ________________________________ > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2024 1:16 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk spacing on a boat lift > > Barry, Attached are 2 photos of how I have our lift set up. > Don Simons, Old Forge, NY > On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 10:12:15 AM EST, BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote: > > Peter, > Thanks so much for that clarification on loading and bearing points. I had assumed the opposite. Main bearing on the bottom and minor support on the sides. With your knowledge, the drawing dimensions, and the picture of a Rhodes on a lift, I will proceed to configure the supports on my new lift to come as close as I can to that information. I will try to rebuild the trailer for a better fit as well. > Best, > Barry > ________________________________ > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 12:42 PM > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk spacing on a boat lift > > Barry, > > On the 'official' Rhodes 22 trailer, the lower 'supports' close to the keel are actually guides. These serve to center the boat on the trailer. As the boat and trailer are pulled from the water, the boat settles onto the upper supports. No weight is actually carried by the guide rails. > > --Peter > >> On 2024-02-28, at 11:30:12 EST, BARRY RUEHLEN wrote: >> >> Thank you .Don, Rick, Peter,Mike,Todd, Chris, Everyone >> Don a picture would be very helpful. >> As always, the group comes forth with much information and help. I have read >> many postings over the past two and a half years of our Rhodes restoration, and >> bunk placement and bearing areas is still very confusing to me. (our Rhodes came >> on some half baked old sailboat trailer). I have read that even though the >> centerboard hangs proud of the keel, it is ok to rest the boat on it, and I've >> read that it is not ok to rest the boat on it. I have read that the best place >> to support the boat is close to the keel where the structure is thickest, and >> the side supports are just for stabilization, and I have read the opposite. In >> fact I believe that I have read that too much support on the side bunks can >> cause deformity in the hull. The trailer diagrams that the group just sent me >> show great dimensions for a side support system, but the actual trailer pictures >> of a Triad show bottom support close to the keel. and additional side supports. >> I suspect that the best supporting system for a boatlift might be to have the >> bottom straight bunks close to the keel as in the picture for main support, and >> then side supports per the CAD drawing with firm to moderate bearing support. >> Sorry for my confusion. We've put a lot of love into this Rhodes restoration, >> and I don't want to screw this up. >> Best, >> Barry Ruehlen >> S/V Perserverance '87 >> >> >> <a >> href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240228%2F038091b2%2Fattachment.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cd67ae941fb4a4b5cb4d208dc3bae05ed%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638450865826037982%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=2HQx9XmSgYoBc8jC8HWlBlyO5NQFYzvRoMmdR7fiX2E%3D&reserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240228%2F038091b2%2Fattachment.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cd67ae941fb4a4b5cb4d208dc3bae05ed%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638450865826046854%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=HwdvQ4NBYf0jki3StyHcDScdTPVZpPstwcM61OuoYz8%3D&reserved=0<http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240228/038091b2/attachment.jpg>>" >> target="_blank">20231005_102129 (1).jpg</a> >> >> <a >> href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240228%2Fea264ab9%2Fattachment.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cd67ae941fb4a4b5cb4d208dc3bae05ed%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638450865826052796%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=k75y4%2BQSOZrXSAD0NUl1yql05pWFILRjJ1PtpPtBe24%3D&reserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240228%2Fea264ab9%2Fattachment.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cd67ae941fb4a4b5cb4d208dc3bae05ed%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638450865826057247%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=C%2FJb5KVS5qq4GP%2BKhoe6QqcJqYbs4W04nnAaZrwblms%3D&reserved=0<http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240228/ea264ab9/attachment.jpg>>" >> target="_blank">1000001848.jpg</a> >> > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 20240302_163345.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 3627545 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240303%2F0d1d4811%2Fattachment.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cd67ae941fb4a4b5cb4d208dc3bae05ed%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638450865826061522%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=KZpmfbXIu1GfJP9bBJZkNZulb%2B6PRc5PC4Gk797Ecrs%3D&reserved=0<http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240303/0d1d4811/attachment.jpg>> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 20240302_163326.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 3006291 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240303%2F0d1d4811%2Fattachment-0001.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cd67ae941fb4a4b5cb4d208dc3bae05ed%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638450865826067230%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=SZTlYnqJmAaye93GhpyqBzl76VEjrTcHbgchlw8aCic%3D&reserved=0<http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240303/0d1d4811/attachment-0001.jpg>> > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Rhodes22-list mailing list > Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > http://rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4538, Issue 1 > **********************************************
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