Roger,

The boat hook and carabiner are unnecessary complications.  And complications threaten safety.

Regards,

Rick Lange

On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 3:14 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:

> Rick,
>
> Assuming you have a boat hook on board, you only need to thread the anchor
> rode thru the carabiner once.  After that, you use the boat hook to handle
> the anchor rode.  It’s no worse than any other time you need to be on the
> bow handling the anchor.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 26, 2023, at 2:36 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Roger,
> >
> > The problem with running or tying the anchor rode to the bow eye is that
> > you can't safely sit in the bow pulpit and do that during heavy weather.
> > The best thing is to first run the rode through a bow chock, tie the rode
> > to the bow cleat, then drop the anchor from the bow rail.  You can do all
> > that sitting securely in the pulpit with your legs hanging over the edge
> of
> > the deck.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rick Lange
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 12:26 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Although I can't open the attachment, my R-22 has the same single bow
> >> cleat you describe on your boat.  There are many factors that affect
> how a
> >> boat lies to its anchor.  Factors which have a much larger effect on the
> >> boat than the slight off-center position of the anchor rode include wind
> >> and current direction and strength, distribution and amount of windage (
> >> i.e.  Do you have your pop top enclosure &/or boom room up? ), and
> >> underwater configuration ( i.e. Do you have the centerboard &/or rudder
> up
> >> or down? ).   There should be a pair of line chocks mounted port and
> >> starboard on the toe rails up on the bow.  On my boat, these line chocks
> >> are mounted on top of the toe rail about halfway in-between the
> stanchions
> >> on the bow pulpit.  You should run the anchor rode from the cleat thru
> one
> >> or the other of these line chocks.  Routing the anchor rode thru these
> line
> >> chocks will not only bring the effective point of attachment closer to
> the
> >> boat's centerline on the bow, it will also help to eliminate chafing on
> the
> >> anchor rode and the boat.  If your boat doesn't have these bow line
> chocks;
> >> then you should add them ASAP.  they also help eliminate chafe from dock
> >> lines.
> >>
> >> One thing you should also consider doing is routing the anchor rode
> thru a
> >> locking rock-climbing carabineer.  Then, attach the carabineer to the
> >> trailering bow eye and run the anchor rode thru one of the bow line
> chocks,
> >> and the bow cleat.  Now, the effective anchor rode attachment point is
> >> about 2 ft closer to the water.  This does good things for your anchor
> >> scope ratio.  An example will serve to illustrate my point:
> >>
> >> Suppose you want to anchor in 10 ft of water depth.  If you route your
> >> anchor rode thru the bow chock, which is about 3 ft above the water, you
> >> have to add 10 + 3 = 13 ft.  To achieve a 7:1 scope ratio you would
> have to
> >> let out 13 X 7 = 91 ft of anchor rode.  If you route your anchor rode
> thru
> >> the bow eye with a carabineer, you will have reduced the attachment
> point's
> >> height above the water to about 1 ft and 10 + 1 = 11 ft.  Now, to
> achieve
> >> the same 7:1 scope ratio, you only have to let out 11 X 7 = 77 ft of
> anchor
> >> rode.  This is a significant reduction in your swing radius.  In a
> crowded
> >> anchorage, this is a useful trick, with no reduction in safety.  Or, you
> >> can let out the original 91 ft of anchor rode and achieve 91 / 11 = 8.27
> >> scope ratio.  With the same 91 ft swing radius, this larger scope ratio
> >> makes your anchor less likely to drag.
> >>
> >> This is SOP anchoring technique aboard S/V Dynamic Equilibrium.
> >>
> >> Roger Pihlaja
> >> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> >> Mitch Mitchell <mitchpadl at gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 10:37 AM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anchoring
> >>
> >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
> >> Name: Anchor.heic
> >> Type: image/heic
> >> Size: 22840 bytes
> >> Desc: not available
> >> URL: <
> >>
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20231026/8ba83f88/attachment.bin
> >> <
> >>
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20231026/8ba83f88/attachment.bin
> >>>>
> >> -------------- next part --------------
> >> Hoping to get some suggestions for anchoring. My boat just has a single
> >> cleat centered on the bow and I’m trying to figure out the best way to
> run
> >> the anchor line. Should I go between the two center pulpit stanchions?
> If I
> >> do that it would be rubbing against the forestay which doesn’t seem
> good.
> >> Should I run it around the second set of pulpit stanchions? That puts
> the
> >> pull to the side which would make the boat go from side to side. I’ve
> read
> >> where other people have added all kinds of anchor rollers, chocks etc.
> but
> >> I am not interested in doing that. Thanks! I’ve included an image of the
> >> bow.
> >>
>