I don't think there's any difference between 82 and 84 or any other year rudders. Don't stigmatize '84 rudders!Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone

-------- Original message --------From: "C. Robert Lester" <C.Robert.Lester at dartmouth.edu> Date: 11/25/22  9:31 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Curved Rudder | 84 Rhodes 22 Thanks Roger.Sailing the last 10 yrs of ORION has been favored port tack, with a Catalina 22 rudder tiller.It will be nice next season to see how this '82 rudder tacks?Bob'84 ORION-----Original Message-----From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of ROGER PIHLAJASent: Friday, November 25, 2022 8:33 PMTo: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Curved Rudder | 84 Rhodes 22Hi Bob,OK, now I see what you mean.  Is that much misalignment noticeable under sail?   Is the tiller position different to go straight ahead on port tack vs starboard tack?Anyway, I don’t think there is any way to fix that rudder blade.  So, you did the right thing to replace it.Roger PihlajaS/V Dynamic EquilibriumSent from my iPhone> On Nov 25, 2022, at 7:17 PM, C. Robert Lester <C.Robert.Lester at dartmouth.edu> wrote:> > Thanks Peter.> Forgive me for not being able to capture the differences in shape with the first pics.> Here is the original pic that I posted. (Yes, that is snow on the ground when I pulled her at end of season.).> Note:> Tiller handle was placed, centerline.> Rudder head at top you can see bolts & nuts both sides.> Rudder is twisted to port, but curved to Starboard.> I hope this is helpful.> Not the pics yesterday show the "patches" of repair that were exposed by pressure washing off the red and black paint this summer.> Bob> '84 Orion> > > -----Original Message-----> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of > Peter Nyberg> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2022 5:26 PM> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Curved Rudder | 84 Rhodes 22> > Bob,> > You seem happy with your new rudder, and so I'm happy for you as well, but those two rudders look pretty much the same to me.> > --Peter> >> On 2022-11-25, at 17:09:29 EST, C. Robert Lester wrote:>> >> I'm the new owner of a rudder off an '82 R22.>> Cannot wait to sail / race next sailing season.>> Took some pics of my '84 Rudder (curved, black/red) and '82 Rudder>> (white) side by side.>> The boats are only 2 years apart but the rudder heads as well as the >> rudders are not similar at all.>> I was going to buy the '82 stern rail as well but that is even a >> different mount and size from my '84.>> Comments, questions?>> >> Thanks all,>> Bob>> '84 ORION>> >> >> >> >> <a>> href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20221125%2F10ad9055%2Fattachment.jpg&data=05%7C01%7Cc.robert.lester%40dartmouth.edu%7C1dde6b93ce3d4e739c2d08dacf4e2bfa%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C638050231897795227%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=5%2FvGDzW4lyDlY8bxd8C0SnVIagsqenG%2FNl74DWRsU24%3D&reserved=0" >> target="_blank">Rudder 1a.jpg</a>>> >> <a>> href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20221125%2F10ad9055%2Fattachment-0001.jpg&data=05%7C01%7Cc.robert.lester%40dartmouth.edu%7C1dde6b93ce3d4e739c2d08dacf4e2bfa%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C638050231897795227%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=6%2FVPk0Yz0raPaBiMYAaNVBCs6BuuLQqJ4yaULWKtmH8%3D&reserved=0" >> target="_blank">Rudder 2a.jpg</a>>> >> <a>> href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20221125%2F10ad9055%2Fattachment-0002.jpg&data=05%7C01%7Cc.robert.lester%40dartmouth.edu%7C1dde6b93ce3d4e739c2d08dacf4e2bfa%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C638050231897795227%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=falg7p83u8J%2FJM8rsVG3WYzN2JmNaPn06t2a0pbB0bA%3D&reserved=0" >> target="_blank">Rudder 3a.jpg</a>>> > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was > scrubbed...> Name: Rudder 4a.jpg> Type: image/jpeg> Size: 413162 bytes> Desc: Rudder 4a.jpg> URL: <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20221126%2Fa02587b5%2Fattachment.jpg&data=05%7C01%7Cc.robert.lester%40dartmouth.edu%7C1dde6b93ce3d4e739c2d08dacf4e2bfa%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C638050231897795227%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2FfotS3oaMoPJ49l2BJvvTqJIHg7PKELw63aG5D1ORAY%3D&reserved=0>