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Hi Tom, So what happened with the boat detailer and your boat’s bottom refinish? Roger Pihlaja S/V Dynamic Equilibrium Sent from my iPhoneSee the original archive post
> On Oct 20, 2021, at 5:31 PM, Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote: > > I'd hate to tax him... As inevitably I would need a new bottom, just didn't > think this soon.... after one detailing. I spoke with another r22 owner > who mirrored your sentiment that something is "foul". > > As Stan mentions inbox backup... I will await his keen observation of > this thread. I don't find anything specific in the reference materials. We > sure love our boat and want to ensure it's appreciation in value. (Triple > printing USD these last two years aside) > > All comments on this appreciated, > Fair winds, > Tom > >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 4:11 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote: >> >> Tom, >> >> I think Stan is your best resource here. He would be most knowledgeable >> about how the bottom was coated. See if you can get an opinion from him. >> >> Roger Pihlaja >> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 20, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Tom Van Heule < >> tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote: >>> >>> F... >>> >>> Any details I can use to build my case would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> What WAS there? How should they have KNOWN how to treat it? Any resource >>> that shows something like this? Maybe someone on YouTube or something has >>> covered this seemingly basic task? I do not believe the R22 has some >> "super >>> special fancy boat coating that the other 100k boats they service >> doesn't?” >>> I will gladly tell you all the shop, but only after I know how they F'd >> up. >>> Pardon my french. >>> >>> >>> I have a habit of making a scene... Today I had my 7yo son with me... >> And I >>> try to minimize his exposure to "daddy flew off the handle because his >>> expectations were failed by a fucking professional". >>> >>> Ooo I swore again... Admittedly I am not looking for a $$$$.xx spend. >>> >>> I do have insurance.... As mentioned before.. it's better I minimize >>> exposure to them. >>> >>> Meltzer knows... Lol >>> Thanks everyone. I'd like to wrap this up fast. >>> >>> I suppose for now I will call them and make them aware I am >>> unhappy/aware/centeringmyself that they caused damage.? >>> >>> Enough ramble for now, thanks again, >>> Tom >>> >>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 3:33 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Tom, >>>> >>>> That looks like you’re thru the gelcoat right down to the FRP substrate. >>>> Yes, you need a refinish before you put the boat back in the water or >> even >>>> expose it to much UV. If it was my boat, I would have had a fit! >>>> >>>> Roger Pihlaja >>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium >>>> >>>> Sent from Mail< >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=04%7C01%7C%7C9cec6c92eddc456bca3808d99410f01f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637703622746085324%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=0er%2FOQBnPUU%2BoXAFk1N%2Braz%2FFn70DfzE%2FP1KJpBOqT4%3D&reserved=0> >> for Windows >>>> >>>> From: Tom Van Heule<mailto:tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 4:30 PM >>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Detail fail? >>>> >>>> Ooooof... >>>> >>>> 1. I silently paid and left. >>>> 2. I can cancel their payment, but would prefer to talk it out. >>>> 3. They told me it was fine... Are you saying I need a refinish now? >>>> 4. I dropped it at storage this afternoon. Do I need to deal with this >> now? >>>> >>>> I figured I would need a bottom paint every 2 years sitting in lake >>>> Michigan. Not every year. >>>> Could it be that the boat has a saltwater paint and these freshwater >> guys >>>> messed it up? >>>> >>>> It looks like a like buffing compound, or lake life, that's been ground >> in >>>> by the buffing? >>>> >>>> I've never had a boat professionally cleaned. Usually I just hit it >> with >>>> the power washer and mcquires, or something like that and a brush... No >>>> idea what chemicals they used... I will follow up. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 2:14 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Tom, >>>>> >>>>> Any chance they had some hydroblasting media mixed into their pressure >>>>> washer that day? Is their liability insurance going to cover it? >>>>> >>>>> Since the bottom is obviously down to the FRP substrate, you are going >> to >>>>> have to refinish the bottom. May I recommend WEST system epoxy with >>>> their >>>>> 422 barrier coat additive. At least you won’t have to worry about >>>> osmotic >>>>> blisters! >>>>> >>>>> Roger Pihlaja >>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Mail< >>>> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=04%7C01%7C%7C9cec6c92eddc456bca3808d99410f01f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637703622746085324%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=0er%2FOQBnPUU%2BoXAFk1N%2Braz%2FFn70DfzE%2FP1KJpBOqT4%3D&reserved=0 >>> >>>> for Windows >>>>> >>>>> From: Tom Van Heule<mailto:tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 2:15 PM >>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Detail fail? >>>>> >>>>> They said they have never seen a boat do this from their cleaning? >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> The rest of the boat looks great... But for a $800+ full detail.... >>>>> >>>>> It was showroom clean at the beginning of the season. >>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> Name: tmp_1634753513007.jpg >>>>> Type: image/jpeg >>>>> Size: 282274 bytes >>>>> Desc: not available >>>>> URL: < >>>>> >>>> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20211020%2Fb34a7a55%2Fattachment.jpg&data=04%7C01%7C%7C9cec6c92eddc456bca3808d99410f01f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637703622746085324%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=C7omViRWjoI90Fs2CxYKvaYh3OLJIFGL0f5TrWdFFJ8%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>> >>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> Name: tmp_1634753506370.jpg >>>>> Type: image/jpeg >>>>> Size: 270359 bytes >>>>> Desc: not available >>>>> URL: < >>>>> >>>> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20211020%2Fb34a7a55%2Fattachment-0001.jpg&data=04%7C01%7C%7C9cec6c92eddc456bca3808d99410f01f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637703622746085324%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=e1MAiLthfHh%2B%2B6nWe42sUnxpXeU4yeX%2FZ%2B%2BXVkd3p6s%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>> >>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> Name: tmp_1634753506370.jpg >>>>> Type: image/jpeg >>>>> Size: 270359 bytes >>>>> Desc: not available >>>>> URL: < >>>>> >>>> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20211020%2Fb34a7a55%2Fattachment-0002.jpg&data=04%7C01%7C%7C9cec6c92eddc456bca3808d99410f01f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637703622746085324%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=autCWyeioOeWxp1rhd2ydWXUus0suDPnOKEmd5%2F97Qk%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>
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