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Ric Stott
Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4389, Issue 1
2021-10-20; 10:01:18 EDT
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GM List Since I owned the boat in 2013, I have used friends and family for my mast crane. Manipulating it without a crane is not as difficult with a continental rig because it’w lighter without the main sail attached. Now - I have a home made crane that I bought in NJ, and used without any guidance. I used it the first time at the end of 2020 to lower the mast. Intuitively - I hooked the froward-lowers to the crane and left the aft-lowers connected to the chainplates. Worked like a charm! I made the same connections to raise the mast this spring - again - no problem. I don’t understand the logic of connecting the aft-lowers to the crane and the need for extenders for the forward-lowers. Can someone fill me in? Ric Dadventure HBNY Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP ric at stottarchitecture.com O -631-283-1777 C- 516-965-3164See the original archive post
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:02 PM, Wilson Cook via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > > The previous owner told me the chains on the list needed to be one link short. But I could not for the life of me get the pin in the headstay chainplate. Lowered it put in second link-closer but no cigar. Lowered again-put in third link and was able to crank it down far enough. If crank handle was parallel to deck instead perpendicular would have had another turn. > > As I mentioned earlier I think something was binding at the masthead because when it popped the headstay was looser. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 19, 2021, at 12:18 AM, rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org wrote: >> >> Send Rhodes22-list mailing list submissions to >> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> rhodes22-list-owner at rhodes22.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Rhodes22-list digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Live from Annapolis this morning (Tom Van Heule) >> 2. Help (Chris Geankoplis) >> 3. Re: Stan at the show (Chris Geankoplis) >> 4. Re: Stan at the show (Mark Wynn) >> 5. Re: Stan at the show (Chris Geankoplis) >> 6. Re: I?m a Rhodie (Chris Geankoplis) >> 7. Re: Help (Michael Corley) >> 8. Re: I?m a Rhodie (Stephen Staum) >> 9. Re: Help (Chris Geankoplis) >> 10. Re: Bimini Car attachment (C. Robert Lester) >> 11. First time (Wilson Cook) >> 12. Re: First time (Lowe, Rob) >> 13. Re: First time (Peter Nyberg) >> 14. Re: First time (ROGER PIHLAJA) >> 15. Re: First time (Wilson Cook) >> 16. Re: First time (Jesse Shumaker) >> 17. Re: First time (Peter Nyberg) >> 18. Re: First time (Lowe, Rob) >> 19. Rudder cheek plate (Matt Wilson) >> 20. Re: Rudder cheek plate (Todd Tavares) >> 21. Re: Rudder cheek plate (Matt Wilson) >> 22. Re: Rudder cheek plate (Michael D. Weisner) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:34:40 -0500 >> From: Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Live from Annapolis this morning >> Message-ID: >> <CAEqJHY5LLMDyswRbCr9-Z=tE7xwKOZJ383pegVar2dtuJE99YQ at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> And all of us!!! >> >>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021, 2:48 PM Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote: >>> >>> Please say hi to Stan from Vermont Graham! >>> G >>> Sv.00Sailin >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Chris Geankoplis < >>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Charles, >>>> I wasn't going to go to the show because General Boats was not >>>> listed. But now I see that you are there! I'm on my way down and should >>>> be there in an hour and a half or less! Looking forward to seeing you >>>> guys. I'm in the states only a few days before returning to Greece so >>> this >>>> is a great way to spend some time. >>>> Chris Geankoplis >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 10:31 AM Charles Gabriel < >>> charles.gabriel at gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The folks from the Youtube channel "Acorn To Arabella" held a >>>>> live feed from the show this morning, and near the end they just >>>>> happened to walk by the General Boats exhibit. You can watch >>>>> it here: >>>>> https://youtu.be/498a2IpwfAc?t=3972 >>>>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 23:07:58 -0400 >> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help >> Message-ID: >> <CADNTwiWZ_AjEddR_w_m3z33OCEci-QnysCQFQtABYJiCZBRV9w at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Just wanted to put it out. If anyone isn?t tied up and is able to attend >> the boat show, might I suggest spending a few hours at the show and perhaps >> some time with Stan. I think there was someone who was supposed to help but >> didn?t show. Doing the show single handed at 95 is more than he can handle >> by himself. I?ve got to return to Greece otherwise I?d do it myself. >> Anyway, if you can spare a few hours Saturday or Sunday that would be >> great. >> Chris Geankoplis >> ENOSIS >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 23:16:50 -0400 >> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> >> To: Rod Ellner <rodellner at mac.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List >> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Stan at the show >> Message-ID: >> <CADNTwiVARD1HbFctbEjU28g6c9j4MaJgMrgQO1=Zx0pFu0Jucg at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Ah, the journal will eventually get posted. I ran head on into >> Greek/Turkish bureaucracy so convoluted that I had to fly back to the US to >> get it fixed. Headed to Greece now. Let you all how it turns out or if I >> need bail money. >> >> Chris Geankoplis >> ENOSIS >> >> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:06 PM Rod Ellner via Rhodes22-list < >> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >> >>> Chris. Thanks for stopping by Annapolis. We need to hear your Rhode >>> Rhodes story >>> >>> Welcome home! >>> >>> Rod and Mary >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:54 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Bill Wickman and I stopped by to see Stan. I would encourage any >>> owners to >>>> drop by maybe ?testify? to interested buyers. I think Stan could use a >>> bit >>>> of company. Working a show like this is a challenge for someone half my >>>> age. >>>> >>>> Chris Geankoplis >>>> Enosis >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 10:51:03 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Mark Wynn <markwynn at verizon.net> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, Rod Ellner >> <rodellner at mac.com> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Stan at the show >> Message-ID: <1408987542.1546022.1634381463595 at mail.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Good luck with the Greeks and Turks. Let us know if we should send a cake with hack saw blade included.?Mark WynnSailing ?Windchimes?? on Magothy River, MD >> >> >> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS >> >> >> On Friday, October 15, 2021, 11:17 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Ah, the journal will eventually get posted. I ran head on into >> Greek/Turkish bureaucracy so convoluted that I had to fly back to the US to >> get it fixed. Headed to Greece now. Let you all how it turns out or if I >> need bail money. >> >> Chris Geankoplis >> ENOSIS >> >> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:06 PM Rod Ellner via Rhodes22-list < >> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >> >>> Chris.? Thanks for stopping by Annapolis.? We need to hear your Rhode >>> Rhodes story >>> >>> Welcome home! >>> >>> Rod and Mary >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:54 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Bill Wickman and? I stopped by to see Stan. I would encourage any >>> owners to >>>> drop by maybe ?testify? to interested buyers. I think Stan could use a >>> bit >>>> of company. Working a show like this is a challenge for someone half my >>>> age. >>>> >>>> Chris Geankoplis >>>> Enosis >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 08:32:29 -0400 >> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> >> To: Mark Wynn <markwynn at verizon.net>, The Rhodes 22 Email List >> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Stan at the show >> Message-ID: >> <CADNTwiWGTu=nX-HOe-kYOaeu4quHdQVJzoM6+Tiodcg70i0_bA at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Thanks for the thought Mark. Hope you get a chance to see Stan. Just got an >> email from my Turkish ?agent?. Looks like the solution can be ? arranged?. >> I?m not going to ask. Have you guys been out on the boat? >> Chris Geankoplis >> Enosis >> >> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 6:51 AM Mark Wynn via Rhodes22-list < >> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >> >>> Good luck with the Greeks and Turks. Let us know if we should send a cake >>> with hack saw blade included. Mark WynnSailing ?Windchimes? on Magothy >>> River, MD >>> >>> >>> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS >>> >>> >>> On Friday, October 15, 2021, 11:17 PM, Chris Geankoplis < >>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Ah, the journal will eventually get posted. I ran head on into >>> Greek/Turkish bureaucracy so convoluted that I had to fly back to the US to >>> get it fixed. Headed to Greece now. Let you all how it turns out or if I >>> need bail money. >>> >>> Chris Geankoplis >>> ENOSIS >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:06 PM Rod Ellner via Rhodes22-list < >>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Chris. Thanks for stopping by Annapolis. We need to hear your Rhode >>>> Rhodes story >>>> >>>> Welcome home! >>>> >>>> Rod and Mary >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:54 PM, Chris Geankoplis < >>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Bill Wickman and I stopped by to see Stan. I would encourage any >>>> owners to >>>>> drop by maybe ?testify? to interested buyers. I think Stan could use a >>>> bit >>>>> of company. Working a show like this is a challenge for someone half my >>>>> age. >>>>> >>>>> Chris Geankoplis >>>>> Enosis >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 08:37:57 -0400 >> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, Wilson Cook >> <reefnsail123 at yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I?m a Rhodie >> Message-ID: >> <CADNTwiWF8vEFs0cJ2H_vmyPn_BbT6evCfU+wp8J4aJ6tFaBs0Q at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Welcome Wilson! You are now a member of a group of passionate, devoted >> (hmm sounds a bit like a cult- might be) group of men and women who take >> great joy in sailing and helping others enjoy their Rhodes. >> Chris Geankoplis >> Enosis >> >> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 1:21 PM Wilson Cook via Rhodes22-list < >> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >> >>> It?s official. My Rhodes 22 2002/2009(refurbished) is in my driveway! >>> This mailing list seems like a tremendous resource. Is there some index or >>> search function to be able to look up previously asked questions? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 10:12:29 -0400 >> From: Michael Corley <michael.4591 at gmail.com> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help >> Message-ID: >> <CACSd1j+k0qTKqABordYLNz45z2HHNUga9z94EiQa=SD73T63fg at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I will be there Sunday and Monday and help haul things back to Edenton. >> >> -Mike Corley >> s/v Ranger >> Hampton Roads >> >> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 11:08 PM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Just wanted to put it out. If anyone isn?t tied up and is able to attend >>> the boat show, might I suggest spending a few hours at the show and perhaps >>> some time with Stan. I think there was someone who was supposed to help but >>> didn?t show. Doing the show single handed at 95 is more than he can handle >>> by himself. I?ve got to return to Greece otherwise I?d do it myself. >>> Anyway, if you can spare a few hours Saturday or Sunday that would be >>> great. >>> Chris Geankoplis >>> ENOSIS >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 10:14:36 -0400 >> From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> >> To: Wilson Cook <reefnsail123 at yahoo.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List >> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I?m a Rhodie >> Message-ID: >> <CAOo_Fjcj7xQMuEEmxES8CRsp0bHH0tB6d8_+87Txp+rS4XMs1Q at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Wilson, >> >> Welcome to 'da list. Let us know if you need any help or advice. >> >> >> *Thanks and Stay Well,* >> >> *Stephen Staum* >> *s/v Pinafore (my 3rd Rhodes 22)* >> >> *Needham, MA* >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 1:21 PM Wilson Cook via Rhodes22-list < >> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >> >>> It?s official. My Rhodes 22 2002/2009(refurbished) is in my driveway! >>> This mailing list seems like a tremendous resource. Is there some index or >>> search function to be able to look up previously asked questions? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 10:48:58 -0400 >> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help >> Message-ID: >> <CADNTwiV2t-Ef4DcqnjiXmn6mc3pgF+sQu1nxSWJuho-mSwJdzQ at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> That is great Mike. We all appreciate your helping Stan! >> Chris Geankoplis >> Enosis >> >> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 10:12 AM Michael Corley <michael.4591 at gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I will be there Sunday and Monday and help haul things back to Edenton. >>> >>> -Mike Corley >>> s/v Ranger >>> Hampton Roads >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 11:08 PM Chris Geankoplis < >>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Just wanted to put it out. If anyone isn?t tied up and is able to attend >>>> the boat show, might I suggest spending a few hours at the show and >>> perhaps >>>> some time with Stan. I think there was someone who was supposed to help >>> but >>>> didn?t show. Doing the show single handed at 95 is more than he can >>> handle >>>> by himself. I?ve got to return to Greece otherwise I?d do it myself. >>>> Anyway, if you can spare a few hours Saturday or Sunday that would be >>>> great. >>>> Chris Geankoplis >>>> ENOSIS >>>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 10 >> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 19:11:05 +0000 >> From: "C. Robert Lester" <C.Robert.Lester at dartmouth.edu> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini Car attachment >> Message-ID: >> <BN9PR03MB61567E7B2DA124E065DBBFEDAEBA9 at BN9PR03MB6156.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Found it! >> >> https://www.catalinadirect.com/shop-by-boat/catalina-27/canvas-covers/biminis/bimini-genoa-track-cars/ >> >> Thanks all for the feedback an pics. >> Bob >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Todd Tavares >> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 8:46 AM >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini Car attachment >> >> Bob, >> >> I'm not sure what you are asking for. >> A bimini car rides on the genoa track (usually). >> >> As far as the traveller car, there have been several different styles of traveller used over the years. Some are specific custom cars and others are available commercially. >> >> >> If you are looking for the traveller car that rides on a 1" round bar, original probably after 1984, it is available from rig rite. >> >> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rigrite.com%2FTravellers%2FNF_Travellers%2FRound%2520Bar%2520Travellers.php&data=04%7C01%7Cc.robert.lester%40dartmouth.edu%7Ca5fd7dcf75fc4b6555e508d98734fdec%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C637689484519658672%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=sKNpdcuORflc9uCgB2PgoSHMd9%2Fat1HFmajlMfbHo1A%3D&reserved=0 >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 12:06 AM C. Robert Lester < C.Robert.Lester at dartmouth.edu> wrote: >>> >>> Hello all, >>> Would some of you share a pic with me...I'm interested in what the >>> bimini car on the traveler looks like. >>> I'm currently trying to mate the parts I have together. >>> Thank you, >>> Bob >>> ('84 ORION) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: Screenshot_20211004-084153_Chrome.jpg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 299502 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20211004%2F505a4da7%2Fattachment.jpg&data=04%7C01%7Cc.robert.lester%40dartmouth.edu%7Ca5fd7dcf75fc4b6555e508d98734fdec%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C637689484519668621%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=RXikcOHKHzQe1loq7WoFXrhKRQNp4BiSRe0T7cZ1VE4%3D&reserved=0> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 11 >> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 07:57:46 -0400 >> From: Wilson Cook <reefnsail123 at yahoo.com> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] First time >> Message-ID: <E09B1CB6-8F54-4FED-ADC1-D1841E6B752E at yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> So I erected my mast for the first time yesterday. I hope there is a short learning curve. Took a while but I was single handed Biggest challenge was the headstay. Took everything I had after shortening chains twice. Once it was finally up and I was tensioning backstays something ?popped? at the masthead and then forestay was looser. >> >> Related question- there is a block and tackle across the backstays but there is no cleat? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 12 >> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 12:17:30 +0000 >> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu> >> To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, Wilson >> Cook <reefnsail123 at yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First time >> Message-ID: >> <DM6PR05MB6985FAA050B2F85FC2E6F600C1BC9 at DM6PR05MB6985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >> >> Wilson, >> The cleat for the backstay adjustment is on the starboard side, next to the chainplate. - rob >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Wilson Cook via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:57 AM >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] First time >> >> So I erected my mast for the first time yesterday. I hope there is a short learning curve. Took a while but I was single handed Biggest challenge was the headstay. Took everything I had after shortening chains twice. Once it was finally up and I was tensioning backstays something ?popped? at the masthead and then forestay was looser. >> >> Related question- there is a block and tackle across the backstays but there is no cleat? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 13 >> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 06:11:05 -0700 >> From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First time >> Message-ID: <E1mcSPx-000V1H-Cu at s152.servername.online> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> ?or it might be on the port side. >> >> Which side the tensioner get cleated to depends on how the blocks on the back stays are configured. Mine are set for port side cleaning, but General Boats put cleats on both sides, just in case. >> >> Peter Nyberg >> Coventry, CT >> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016] >> >> >>> On 2021-10-18, at 08:17:30 EDT, Lowe, Rob wrote: >>> >>> Wilson, >>> The cleat for the backstay adjustment is on the starboard side, next to the >>> chainplate. - rob >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 14 >> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:36:06 +0000 >> From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> >> To: Wilson Cook <reefnsail123 at yahoo.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List >> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First time >> Message-ID: >> <CH2PR02MB6920B2DEB50D42D434B525BE80BC9 at CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >> >> Hi Wilson, >> >> It helps to make a checklist and follow it. Do you have the GBI mast stepping system? I am not strong enough to step/unstep the mast without this mechanical aid. Stepping/unstopping the mast is faster if you have some helpers. You save the rigging/unrigging time to setup the GBI mast stepping system. But, if you are alone, the GBI mast stepping system makes it a safe, foolproof operation. >> >> The attached picture shows the OEM standard cleat for the backstay adjuster. This cleat is located on the transom in the starboard aft corner. Also shown in the picture is my improved ?Go Faster? backstay adjuster. The backstay tension is the primary way to adjust forestay sag. Forestay sag affects genoa sailshape. You want to be able to adjust it quickly and reproducibly. Here are the components of my backstay adjuster: >> >> >> 1. Harken 146 Single Big Bullet Block With Shackle >> 2. Harken 144 Swivel Base With 150 Cam-Matic Cam Cleat & Stand-Up Spring >> 3. 10-24UNC X 1-1/2 Inch 18/8 Stainless Steel Flat Head Phillips Machine Screws, Fenders Washers, & Nylock Nuts ? 4 Reqd >> >> Instead of cleating the backstay adjuster off on the OEM standard horned cleat on the transom, rig it thru the Harken block and cam cleat. Now, using a black magic marker, mark off every 6 inches on the backstay control line starting from when the backstay adjuster just starts to take up the slack in the forestay. Now, you can reproducibly adjust the tension in the backstay with just a flick of the wrist and a pull on the control line to the appropriate mark. Note, the required backstay tension to eliminate forestay sag in heavy air is quite high. I don?t like to leave the backstay tension that high when I leave the boat (think banana boat!). So, I slack off the backstay adjuster when I?m not actually sailing. Note, the Harken swivel base enables the helmsman to reach and adjust the backstay tension from any position in the cockpit. >> >> This discussion actually belongs in the ?Go Faster? &/or ?Furling Headsail Replacement? threads because it is another go faster upgrade associated with the genoa. >> >> Roger Pihlaja >> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium >> >> [cid:image002.jpg at 01D7C414.553B7930] >> >> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows >> >> From: Wilson Cook via Rhodes22-list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:57 AM >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] First time >> >> So I erected my mast for the first time yesterday. I hope there is a short learning curve. Took a while but I was single handed Biggest challenge was the headstay. Took everything I had after shortening chains twice. Once it was finally up and I was tensioning backstays something ?popped? at the masthead and then forestay was looser. >> >> Related question- there is a block and tackle across the backstays but there is no cleat? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: 919EB46A00C54B95B151B34D35E652BB.jpg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 192766 bytes >> Desc: 919EB46A00C54B95B151B34D35E652BB.jpg >> URL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20211018/7f5499a9/attachment.jpg> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 15 >> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 13:07:21 -0400 >> From: Wilson Cook <reefnsail123 at yahoo.com> >> To: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> >> Cc: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First time >> Message-ID: <830884C5-A7FA-4F95-82DA-E07A302138A7 at yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Yes I have the mast hoist. I can?t imagine it would be possible certainly alone without it. I?m at work but I do have a vague memory of a cleat over there that I thought was odd. Now I know. >> >> This is a great resource. Thank you >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 18, 2021, at 11:36 AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> Hi Wilson, >>> >>> It helps to make a checklist and follow it. Do you have the GBI mast stepping system? I am not strong enough to step/unstep the mast without this mechanical aid. Stepping/unstopping the mast is faster if you have some helpers. You save the rigging/unrigging time to setup the GBI mast stepping system. But, if you are alone, the GBI mast stepping system makes it a safe, foolproof operation. >>> >>> The attached picture shows the OEM standard cleat for the backstay adjuster. This cleat is located on the transom in the starboard aft corner. Also shown in the picture is my improved ?Go Faster? backstay adjuster. The backstay tension is the primary way to adjust forestay sag. Forestay sag affects genoa sailshape. You want to be able to adjust it quickly and reproducibly. Here are the components of my backstay adjuster: >>> >>> Harken 146 Single Big Bullet Block With Shackle >>> Harken 144 Swivel Base With 150 Cam-Matic Cam Cleat & Stand-Up Spring >>> 10-24UNC X 1-1/2 Inch 18/8 Stainless Steel Flat Head Phillips Machine Screws, Fenders Washers, & Nylock Nuts ? 4 Reqd >>> >>> Instead of cleating the backstay adjuster off on the OEM standard horned cleat on the transom, rig it thru the Harken block and cam cleat. Now, using a black magic marker, mark off every 6 inches on the backstay control line starting from when the backstay adjuster just starts to take up the slack in the forestay. Now, you can reproducibly adjust the tension in the backstay with just a flick of the wrist and a pull on the control line to the appropriate mark. Note, the required backstay tension to eliminate forestay sag in heavy air is quite high. I don?t like to leave the backstay tension that high when I leave the boat (think banana boat!). So, I slack off the backstay adjuster when I?m not actually sailing. Note, the Harken swivel base enables the helmsman to reach and adjust the backstay tension from any position in the cockpit. >>> >>> This discussion actually belongs in the ?Go Faster? &/or ?Furling Headsail Replacement? threads because it is another go faster upgrade associated with the genoa. >>> >>> Roger Pihlaja >>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium >>> >>> <919EB46A00C54B95B151B34D35E652BB.jpg> >>> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows >>> >>> From: Wilson Cook via Rhodes22-list >>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:57 AM >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] First time >>> >>> So I erected my mast for the first time yesterday. I hope there is a short learning curve. Took a while but I was single handed Biggest challenge was the headstay. Took everything I had after shortening chains twice. Once it was finally up and I was tensioning backstays something ?popped? at the masthead and then forestay was looser. >>> >>> Related question- there is a block and tackle across the backstays but there is no cleat? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 16 >> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:19:34 -0500 >> From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First time >> Message-ID: >> <CAMc-3fpPOvWvYRvkEdewDpXGfHo94czkHRr-3y4Nc_5NffyP4w at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Roger, great idea on the easily adjustable backstay adjuster! >> >> Wilson, there are a number of posts with checklists for mast raising / >> lowering using the GB system that people have created over time. Let us >> know if you are looking for that and have any trouble finding examples. >> >> Jesse Shumaker >> S/V Zephyr >> >> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 10:36 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Wilson, >>> >>> It helps to make a checklist and follow it. Do you have the GBI mast >>> stepping system? I am not strong enough to step/unstep the mast without >>> this mechanical aid. Stepping/unstopping the mast is faster if you have >>> some helpers. You save the rigging/unrigging time to setup the GBI mast >>> stepping system. But, if you are alone, the GBI mast stepping system makes >>> it a safe, foolproof operation. >>> >>> The attached picture shows the OEM standard cleat for the backstay >>> adjuster. This cleat is located on the transom in the starboard aft >>> corner. Also shown in the picture is my improved ?Go Faster? backstay >>> adjuster. The backstay tension is the primary way to adjust forestay sag. >>> Forestay sag affects genoa sailshape. You want to be able to adjust it >>> quickly and reproducibly. Here are the components of my backstay adjuster: >>> >>> >>> 1. Harken 146 Single Big Bullet Block With Shackle >>> 2. Harken 144 Swivel Base With 150 Cam-Matic Cam Cleat & Stand-Up Spring >>> 3. 10-24UNC X 1-1/2 Inch 18/8 Stainless Steel Flat Head Phillips >>> Machine Screws, Fenders Washers, & Nylock Nuts ? 4 Reqd >>> >>> Instead of cleating the backstay adjuster off on the OEM standard horned >>> cleat on the transom, rig it thru the Harken block and cam cleat. Now, >>> using a black magic marker, mark off every 6 inches on the backstay control >>> line starting from when the backstay adjuster just starts to take up the >>> slack in the forestay. Now, you can reproducibly adjust the tension in the >>> backstay with just a flick of the wrist and a pull on the control line to >>> the appropriate mark. Note, the required backstay tension to eliminate >>> forestay sag in heavy air is quite high. I don?t like to leave the >>> backstay tension that high when I leave the boat (think banana boat!). So, >>> I slack off the backstay adjuster when I?m not actually sailing. Note, the >>> Harken swivel base enables the helmsman to reach and adjust the backstay >>> tension from any position in the cockpit. >>> >>> This discussion actually belongs in the ?Go Faster? &/or ?Furling Headsail >>> Replacement? threads because it is another go faster upgrade associated >>> with the genoa. >>> >>> Roger Pihlaja >>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium >>> >>> [cid:image002.jpg at 01D7C414.553B7930] >>> >>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows >>> >>> From: Wilson Cook via Rhodes22-list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:57 AM >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] First time >>> >>> So I erected my mast for the first time yesterday. I hope there is a short >>> learning curve. Took a while but I was single handed Biggest challenge was >>> the headstay. Took everything I had after shortening chains twice. Once it >>> was finally up and I was tensioning backstays something ?popped? at the >>> masthead and then forestay was looser. >>> >>> Related question- there is a block and tackle across the backstays but >>> there is no cleat? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: 919EB46A00C54B95B151B34D35E652BB.jpg >>> Type: image/jpeg >>> Size: 192766 bytes >>> Desc: 919EB46A00C54B95B151B34D35E652BB.jpg >>> URL: < >>> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20211018/7f5499a9/attachment.jpg >>>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 17 >> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 13:25:23 -0700 >> From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First time >> Message-ID: <E1mcZCF-003QBi-IT at s152.servername.online> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Wilson, >> >> I've been puzzled all day about your problem with your forestay. I assume the 'challenge' you mention was getting the forestay connected to its chainplate at the bow. What had me scratching my head was your mention of shortening the chains. Shortening the chains shouldn't have any effect on being able to get the top of the mast far enough forward to make the forestay connection, unless... >> >> By any chance, do you have the chains connected to the mast crane? >> >> Peter Nyberg >> Coventry, CT >> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) >> >>> On 2021-10-18, at 07:57:46 EDT, Wilson Cook wrote: >>> >>> So I erected my mast for the first time yesterday. I hope there is a short >>> learning curve. Took a while but I was single handed Biggest challenge was the >>> headstay. Took everything I had after shortening chains twice. Once it was >>> finally up and I was tensioning backstays something ?popped? at the masthead and >>> then forestay was looser. >>> >>> Related question- there is a block and tackle across the backstays but there is >>> no cleat? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 18 >> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 20:34:17 +0000 >> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First time >> Message-ID: >> <DM6PR05MB698545815394C03865A1E249C1BC9 at DM6PR05MB6985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Photos always help too. Take a photo (jpeg preferred) and send it to us as an attachment. Having the backstay adjustment slack will also give you some leeway with the forestay. Once it's connected, you can tighten the backstays. >> >> Rob >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Peter Nyberg >> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 4:25 PM >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First time >> >> Wilson, >> >> I've been puzzled all day about your problem with your forestay. I assume the 'challenge' you mention was getting the forestay connected to its chainplate at the bow. What had me scratching my head was your mention of shortening the chains. Shortening the chains shouldn't have any effect on being able to get the top of the mast far enough forward to make the forestay connection, unless... >> >> By any chance, do you have the chains connected to the mast crane? >> >> Peter Nyberg >> Coventry, CT >> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) >> >>> On 2021-10-18, at 07:57:46 EDT, Wilson Cook wrote: >>> >>> So I erected my mast for the first time yesterday. I hope there is a >>> short learning curve. Took a while but I was single handed Biggest >>> challenge was the headstay. Took everything I had after shortening >>> chains twice. Once it was finally up and I was tensioning backstays >>> something ?popped? at the masthead and then forestay was looser. >>> >>> Related question- there is a block and tackle across the backstays but >>> there is no cleat? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 19 >> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 20:24:40 -0500 >> From: Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rudder cheek plate >> Message-ID: >> <CANbEFCtCM051H5gy1GRH-HobkHn+ke+XnsV8C73EEmZdx=9PAg at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I have a cracked port side rudder check plate and am wondering what is the >> best way to repair or replace it? I have a 1990 Rhodes. I am not a member >> of the GB parts club. Any help would be appreciated. Hoping to take care >> of this in the early off season ;) >> >> Matt Wilson >> Hornblower 2 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 20 >> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 21:30:39 -0400 >> From: Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rudder cheek plate >> Message-ID: >> <CAB-twMP0BBZvGh7rJCWBUj_upHpqp-NNrT5uSohkip1oG8K=BA at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Matt, >> >> I would suggest buying some black UHMWPE and fabricating two new cheek >> plates yourself. >> You could also try to find a plastics production shop to fabricate a set. >> Try Norva plastics in Norfolk Virginia. If you send them the good one they >> may make you two new ones. They've done work for me in KingStarboard >> several years ago. >> >> http://norvaplastics.com/ >> >> Todd T. >> >>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 9:24 PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I have a cracked port side rudder check plate and am wondering what is the >>> best way to repair or replace it? I have a 1990 Rhodes. I am not a member >>> of the GB parts club. Any help would be appreciated. Hoping to take care >>> of this in the early off season ;) >>> >>> Matt Wilson >>> Hornblower 2 >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 21 >> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 20:48:01 -0500 >> From: Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rudder cheek plate >> Message-ID: >> <CANbEFCviibdgn9JPFBpMoUinzCNqh3KSYHQkJfZUPuLN9MwmDg at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Are there different strengths or if I get the same thickness it should >> suffice? Thanks Todd! >> >>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 8:30 PM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Matt, >>> >>> I would suggest buying some black UHMWPE and fabricating two new cheek >>> plates yourself. >>> You could also try to find a plastics production shop to fabricate a set. >>> Try Norva plastics in Norfolk Virginia. If you send them the good one they >>> may make you two new ones. They've done work for me in KingStarboard >>> several years ago. >>> >>> http://norvaplastics.com/ >>> >>> Todd T. >>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 9:24 PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> I have a cracked port side rudder check plate and am wondering what is >>> the >>>> best way to repair or replace it? I have a 1990 Rhodes. I am not a >>> member >>>> of the GB parts club. Any help would be appreciated. Hoping to take >>> care >>>> of this in the early off season ;) >>>> >>>> Matt Wilson >>>> Hornblower 2 >>>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 22 >> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 00:18:10 -0400 >> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com> >> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rudder cheek plate >> Message-ID: <003b01d7c4a0$5405b2b0$fc111810$@ebsmed.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Matt, >> >> If you make a pair, be sure that you specify that you need both sides and that they are mirror images with respect to the edge bevels. >> >> Mike >> s/v Wind Lass ('91) >> Nissequogue River, NY >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Todd Tavares >> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 9:31 PM >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rudder cheek plate >> >> Matt, >> >> I would suggest buying some black UHMWPE and fabricating two new cheek plates yourself. >> You could also try to find a plastics production shop to fabricate a set. >> Try Norva plastics in Norfolk Virginia. If you send them the good one they may make you two new ones. They've done work for me in KingStarboard several years ago. >> >> http://norvaplastics.com/ >> >> Todd T. >> >>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 9:24 PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I have a cracked port side rudder check plate and am wondering what is >>> the best way to repair or replace it? I have a 1990 Rhodes. I am not >>> a member of the GB parts club. Any help would be appreciated. Hoping >>> to take care of this in the early off season ;) >>> >>> Matt Wilson >>> Hornblower 2 >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rhodes22-list mailing list >> Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> http://rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4389, Issue 1 >> ********************************************** >
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