Jesse
Racing is not for everyone. Some seasoned sailors I know say racing brings to the worse in people.
Clearly, there are those who race seriously and those who use it for entertainment or whatever.
I have learned a lot from racing, mostly about sailing, but also about people.
Personally, I like it the best when conditions are the worse - I don’t really know why.
I’ve had plenty of experience in-shore and off-shore and enjoy the tough conditions best when I know there’s a hot shower, a good meal and cozy dry bed at the end of the day - or two.
A post-race party helps too.
Sail-on
Ric
Dadventure
Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
www.stottarchitecture.com
Office 631-283-1777
Cell 516-965-3164
> On Mar 2, 2021, at 10:34 AM, Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>> That's great to hear Ric. It sounds like a lot of fun! The guys who just
> keep on sailing give us something to aspire to. The biggest boats for
> racing on our small lake are 22'. We have a match racing league on Santana
> 20s with a 3 person crew. I'll be the bow man for some experienced racers
> on their Capri 22' this year. I don't have much spinnaker experience and
> figured this is a great opportunity to learn from experienced racers.
> Fortunately, I get the opportunity to sail on a variety of boats
> which keeps things interesting. I find that racing is a good way to
> improve sailing skills and I have a lot to learn. Good luck with your
> racing this season!
>> Jesse
>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 8:24 AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>>> Amazing right? Racing a Snipe is not for old men, so your local hero, like
>> mine, is an anomaly.
>> My Captain, George Martin, bought his C&C in 1972 and started racing right
>> away.
>> He upgraded the keel and rig in ’89, a year before I found my way onto the
>> boat.
>> George martin was the Senior Master Lazer Champ about 10 years ago - he
>> beat Rodney Johnstone (the same age) to do it, and also raced JY 15s very
>> successfully.
>> He stopped polishing the bottom of ‘Osprey’ for Wednesday night racing a
>> couple of years ago because he couldn’t haul himself out of the water and
>> into the dingy anymore and the scuba gear got to be too much. He gets
>> younger crew to do it now, but he’s there with them every minute.
>> We sail with 8, & 10 if its windy - - - the youngest crew is 51.
>> We have had quite a run and the new main sail George just ordered means
>> he’s still got his mojo for the 2021 season.
>>>> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>> www.stottarchitecture.com
>> Office 631-283-1777
>> Cell 516-965-3164
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Jesse Shumaker <
>>jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Ric, your C&C 35 captain reminds me of a guy at our local sailing club.
>>> George will be 85 this year and still regularly wins races on a
>>> Snipe, which is a 14' racing dinghy which makes for athletic sailing. He
>>> was commodore at our sailing club for over 20 years and is a bit of a
>> hero
>>> to the local sailors. I picked up a Snipe for next to nothing last year
>>> since we have a fleet that we're trying to rebuild and it is fun one
>> design
>>> racing. My wife took one look at the Snipe and said "That's your boat,
>>> I'll never go on that tippy thing. I'll stick with the Rhodes and your
>>> friends can crew on the Snipe."
>>>>>> Jesse Shumaker
>>> S/V Zephyr
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 2:59 PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Stan et al
>>>> This is a difficult subject but since you brought it up.
>>>> Rhodies -
>>>> If you plan to use your boat as the coffin - it will not work!
>>>> I shouldn’t have to remind you that the Rhodes 22 does not sink.
>>>> I know Stan’s sense of humor is talking and so is mine.
>>>> But we have joked about how to send off our race captain on the C&C 35
>>>> I’ve been sailing on for 30 years.
>>>> He’s 85, bought his boat new and is still racing, but hey, ya never
>> know.
>>>>>>>> Far off-shore and out-of-sight, a thru-hull fitting comes loose - - -
>>>> The C&C disappears, the Rhodes becomes part of the Plastic waste island
>>>> floating forever mid ocean.
>>>> Long live Stan and the Rhodes 22 - may we float forever.
>>>> Ric
>>>> sv Dadventure
>>>> Hampton Bays, NY
>>>>>>>> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>>> www.stottarchitecture.com
>>>> Office 631-283-1777
>>>> Cell 516-965-3164
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2021, at 3:32 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> It is a good thing one of us has a good memory. No motor and we made
>> it
>>>> all the way to the dead end of that long narrow canal? If I knew the
>> boats
>>>> were that good I would have kept them all. What did you say your name
>> was.
>>>>>>>>>> Roger, this guy knows more about the boat than I do. Ask Him. He has
>>>> owned two; I never could afford one. But lately been considering it
>> since
>>>> they now come with a great surprise benefit: Free burial at sea for a
>> neat
>>>> net savings.
>>>>>>>>>> stan
>>>>>>>>>> Mike, thanks for those wonderful memories.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/1/21 2:45 PM, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>>>>>> I bought my first Rhodes 22, an RC - that's what they were called back
>>>> then (1980) from Stan in Rose's kitchen, after our test sail. I
>> attached 2
>>>> pdf files of the sales materials distributed to potential buyers in
>> 1980 at
>>>> shows, including the price list and a narrative on the Rhodes
>> Continental.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheryl and I loved the RC, first seen at the Stamford in the Water
>> Boat
>>>> Show in the autumn of 1980. Stan had promised a test sail when I gave
>> him
>>>> the $25 REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT. Unfortunately, he was too busy taking
>> orders at
>>>> the show so we met him one very cold late October day at the house in
>>>> Amityville. The wind was howling at a good 15-20 knots and we had a
>> heck of
>>>> a sail. Stan just sat on the cockpit seat with his back up against the
>>>> cabin bulkhead facing the stern. He zipped his parka up and smiled as I
>>>> sailed her hard. He didn't care what I tried because he had faith in the
>>>> design. We came about and even jibed with all the cloth flying (150
>> Genoa).
>>>> I asked him if we needed to reef the main (roller reefing) and he just
>>>> shrugged, so we didn't. With a crew of 4 twenty somethings and the
>> master,
>>>> we were invincible. When we finally go back to the canal behind the
>> house,
>>>> Stan took the helm, showing me how to propel the RC with just the
>> rudder.
>>>> It was then that I realized, we didn't have an engine on the mount. Who
>>>> needed a stinking motor?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Stan wanted us to be among the first to try out his IMF design but he
>>>> was unable to give us a firm delivery date so we took delivery of the
>> RC in
>>>> March 1981. Stan set it up with us and we sailed for about an hour. He
>> only
>>>> told me how to retrieve her, no practice attempt. I dropped him at our
>> dock
>>>> and we went out for more sailing. The two of us were finally able to
>> get on
>>>> the trailer and dropped the mast in the dark. What a day! What a boat!
>>>>>>>>>>>> In those days, we sailed from March 1st through Thanksgiving, as
>>>> trailer sailors! Now, we are on a mooring and I am happy to sail May
>> 15th
>>>> to October 15, but, we do sail a '91 Rhodes 22 w/IMF and lots of
>> creature
>>>> comforts. One thing hasn’t changed: I still love to sail my Rhodes 22
>> fully
>>>> rigged in lots of wind. But, I must confess, I do furl the main and the
>>>> huge Genoa well before we hit 15-20 kts.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>>>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>>>> I’d rather be sailing :~)
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>>>> Roger Pihlaja Home
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 1:51 PM
>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Continental Sails
>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe,
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is my understanding that Stan changed the name from Rhodes
>>>> Continental 22 to Rhodes 22 around the time he took over production of
>> the
>>>> boat. Other than the in house production line, I think all the hull
>> lines
>>>> and sail plan were unchanged. The hull molds were literally the same.
>> The
>>>> Rhodes Continental 22 was not offered with the inner mast furling
>>>> mainsail. That came later. Stan, if I’ve gotten something wrong here,
>>>> please jump into this discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Joe Dempsey <joedempsey at hughes.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then I'm confused. It is my understanding that the Continental was
>>>>>>> only built for a few years. My question, therefore is what is the
>>>>>>> difference in sail plan from a Continental and any other Rhodes 22?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>> Joe Dempsey
>>>>>>> s/v Respite
>>>>>>> Rhodes 22 1989/2005
>>>>>>> Deltaville,VA
>>>>>>> --
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