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Steven Alm
Help with motor mount
2020-11-23; 13:59:34 EST
Member Since
2007-05-08
Posts: 600
Did my post with photos come through?See the original archive post
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:07 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote: > Ric. > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:07 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ric. >> >> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:06 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Ric, >>> My aluminum tracks are screwed into the sides of the black plastic, >>> Starboard, or whatever it is and the black strips are through-bolted to the >>> transom. The through-bolts just have washers and nuts on the inside. There >>> are two wooden backing supports on the inside but the bolts on the >>> starboard track do not go through the support, but the port side bolts do. >>> The black strips are 1" wide and 2" thick. If you look closely at the >>> picture you'll see the starboard side strip has an extra clear or white >>> strip of plastic spacer sandwiched between the black strip and the hull. >>> It's 1" wide and 3/8" thick. The port side does not have that extra spacer. >>> (This is my second attempt. First one with three pics was too large, so >>> I'll send separately.) >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:01 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Ric, >>>> My aluminum tracks are screwed into the sides of the black plastic, >>>> Starboard, or whatever it is and the black strips are through-bolted to the >>>> transom. The through-bolts just have washers and nuts on the inside. There >>>> are two wooden backing supports on the inside but the bolts on the >>>> starboard track do not go through the support, but the port side bolts do. >>>> The black strips are 1" wide and 2" thick. If you look closely at the >>>> picture you'll see the starboard side strip has an extra clear or white >>>> strip of plastic spacer sandwiched between the black strip and the hull. >>>> It's 1" wide and 3/8" thick. The port side does not have that extra spacer. >>>> Hope my pics come through: >>>> >>>> "Slim" >>>> Fandango >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 9:00 AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Steven >>>>> I’m glad my pics came through. >>>>> Yours a looks more like Cary’s than mine. >>>>> You both have have plastic outside of the U channel. >>>>> I think mine rails are screwed to the transom using screws from the >>>>> laz, that is, the inside of the transom - directly into the plastic strips >>>>> on the inside of my rails. >>>>> I have a 1/2 plastic running vertical on the inside of each U channel. >>>>> The StarBoard or whatever that is, decreases the dept of the u channel >>>>> by 1/2”, so there is only a 1/2” channel to hold the motor on the boat. >>>>> The mount and transom was very weak in the area and the whole transom >>>>> flexed - even in the area the rails attached, which hold have stiffened it >>>>> vertically at least. >>>>> >>>>> I like your set up better and will move in that direction. >>>>> It appears that your Plastic strips are screwed into the transom at >>>>> like- 3” o.c. >>>>> The material looks to be about 3/4’ x 1” - can you confirm that for >>>>> me? >>>>> Are those thru bolts? >>>>> What is the backing behind the transom? >>>>> How are the U channels fastened to the Plastic strips on each side? >>>>> Thanks - that’s alotta questions. >>>>> Ric Dadventure >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP >>>>> www.stottarchitecture.com >>>>> Office 631-283-1777 >>>>> Cell 516-965-3164 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:06 AM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Thanks Steven. It does look similar to my tracks. Less secure than I >>>>> would >>>>> > have thought. Your track looks to be longer than my set up. >>>>> > Thanks again for the help. >>>>> > Cary >>>>> > S/V Whisper >>>>> > >>>>> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 8:56 AM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> My boat is a 1990 but probably similar vintage motor lift. The >>>>> stopper is >>>>> >> only on the starboard side track with is longer than the port side. >>>>> It is >>>>> >> not through-bolted to the transom and just unscrews. The bolt is >>>>> covered >>>>> >> with a plastic or composite bushing. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 9:11 AM Richard Stott < >>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com> >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> Nabble is a PITA >>>>> >>> Here are some pics. >>>>> >>> Westmarine mount is temporary. >>>>> >>> The GB 1-1/4" x 1-1/4" rails are 11 7/8” apart - out to out. >>>>> >>> My new rails will extend past the useless rub rail. >>>>> >>> But -They will not extend past the top of the transom. >>>>> >>> It will be manual. >>>>> >>> The stops are simple 1/4” aluminum bolts at the bottom of the >>>>> rails. >>>>> >>> More to follow >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP >>>>> >>> www.stottarchitecture.com >>>>> >>> Office 631-283-1777 >>>>> >>> Cell 516-965-3164 >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com> >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Thanks Rob >>>>> >>>> There is a good reason for asking questions. The more brains the >>>>> >> better. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020, 8:32 AM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cary, >>>>> >>>>> I don't believe grease on the tracks would be a good idea. Any >>>>> grease >>>>> >>>>> would attract and hold dirt, which will just add to the wear. I >>>>> >> think a >>>>> >>>>> spray lubricant such as Sailcoat would be the most you would >>>>> want to >>>>> >>> use. - >>>>> >>>>> Rob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on >>>>> behalf of >>>>> >>>>> Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:07 PM >>>>> >>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help with motor mount >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Ric. You mentioned, from your survey, that we had the same >>>>> >> mount. >>>>> >>>>> The pictures would be really great. If you could give me the >>>>> >>>>> dimensions that would put me in business. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> While I am at it, I have one more question for those on da List. >>>>> Does >>>>> >>>>> anyone have experience with silicone dielectric grease as >>>>> lubricant >>>>> >> on a >>>>> >>>>> track. I am thinking of the rails of the motor lift. >>>>> >>>>> Cary >>>>> >>>>> Whisper >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 3:21 PM Ric Stott < >>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com> >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Cory >>>>> >>>>>> The pics I see of the red boat has a motor mount a grade level >>>>> up >>>>> >> from >>>>> >>>>>> mine. My aluminum rails are attached directly to the hull. >>>>> There is >>>>> >> a >>>>> >>>>>> Delrin (I think) strip that runs on the inside of the channel, >>>>> bottom >>>>> >>> to >>>>> >>>>>> top. I took some pics and will send them out on Monday if I can. >>>>> >>>>>> Ric >>>>> >>>>>> Dadventure >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> ?The minute I get off the waiting list at your marina I'll >>>>> pull the >>>>> >>>>>> trigger >>>>> >>>>>>> on getting a recycled one from Stan. >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 11:31 AM Cary Tolbert < >>>>> retiredtoby at gmail.com >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Lee. Your boat looks like it was upgraded in its >>>>> life. That >>>>> >>>>>> system >>>>> >>>>>>>> is much newer and a better thought out system than the one on >>>>> my >>>>> >> 86. >>>>> >>>>>>>> Rob's 90 something has something similar for his 9.9 hp with >>>>> all >>>>> >>>>>> electrical >>>>> >>>>>>>> controls. >>>>> >>>>>>>> Any luck on tracking down your Rhodes 22 to be? >>>>> >>>>>>>> Cary >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 11:18 AM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com >>>>> > >>>>> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary, >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Don't know if any of the attached of my former 1986 AT EASE >>>>> will >>>>> >>>>> help. >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Might need to enlarge. Seems like a variety of stops might >>>>> work. >>>>> >>>>> Good >>>>> >>>>>>>>> luck! >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lee >>>>> >>>>>>>>> No Boat Yet >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Claytor Lake, VA >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 10:16 AM Cary Tolbert < >>>>> >>> retiredtoby at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am asking for help with photos for an 86 Rhodes. My boat >>>>> was >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> apparently hit >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> in the marina and I have a damaged motor mount. I was able >>>>> to >>>>> >>>>> salvage >>>>> >>>>>>>>> most >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> of the damaged parts and replicate them from existing >>>>> patterns of >>>>> >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>>>>> old >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> parts. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> However, the LOWER STOPS were missing. So at this point I >>>>> have no >>>>> >>>>> idea >>>>> >>>>>>>>> what >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I need to do to replicate these parts. Photos will be very >>>>> >> helpful. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Measurement would also be greatly appreciated. I am >>>>> guessing any >>>>> >>>>> boat >>>>> >>>>>>>>> from >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> an 82 to an 89 may have a very similar set up. Ric I am >>>>> glad you >>>>> >>>>> can >>>>> >>>>>>>> now >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> send pictures with your computer. You mentioned that we >>>>> have the >>>>> >>>>> same >>>>> >>>>>>>> set >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> up. What type of material did Stan use for the stops? Stan >>>>> said, >>>>> >>> he >>>>> >>>>>> no >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> longer makes this type of mount and cannot furnish parts. >>>>> So I >>>>> >> must >>>>> >>>>>>>> rely >>>>> >>>>>>>>> on >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> your help and my modest skills to be able to sail next >>>>> season. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It must have been a lot of force on the collision as I found >>>>> >> three >>>>> >>>>>>>> 1/4 >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> inch stainless steel bolts bent to 90 degrees and one bolt >>>>> was >>>>> >>>>> sheared >>>>> >>>>>>>>> into >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> two pieces. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help, >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cary Tolbert >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> S/V Whisper "86 >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Radford, VA >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>> >>>>>>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Name: Motor Lift Side.jpg >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Type: image/jpeg >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Size: 1770484 bytes >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Desc: not available >>>>> >>>>>>>>> URL: < >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >> >>>>> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20201114/c7f75d52/attachment.jpg >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>> >>>>>>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Name: Motor Lift Top.jpg >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Type: image/jpeg >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Size: 1804873 bytes >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Desc: not available >>>>> >>>>>>>>> URL: < >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >> >>>>> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20201114/c7f75d52/attachment-0001.jpg >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>> >>>>>>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Name: Motor Lift Side Top.jpg >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Type: image/jpeg >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Size: 1845462 bytes >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Desc: not available >>>>> >>>>>>>>> URL: < >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >> >>>>> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20201114/c7f75d52/attachment-0002.jpg >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>> >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> >> Name: IMG_0648.jpg >>>>> >> Type: image/jpg >>>>> >> Size: 1942916 bytes >>>>> >> Desc: not available >>>>> >> URL: < >>>>> >> >>>>> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20201117/5e697346/attachment.jpg >>>>> >>> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>
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