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2020-11-03; 18:36:23 EST
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I have that same 5way Jesse. Nice work, thanks for the update and pics. Look forward to seeing you in MKE next year?!See the original archive post
On Tue, Nov 3, 2020, 3:54 PM Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > Regardless of your disposition, there's one victory we can all celebrate > today: my struggle against the adhesive (presumably 5200) securing the > tabernacle has been overcome without any damage. I applied plenty > of Marine Formula DeBond, waited patiently and then made iterative use of a > combination of knives, a wood wedge, and gentle taps with a rubber mallet. > I would scrape out adhesive around the edges, spray more DeBond, go do > something else for a few minutes (I've got several other boat projects > underway), tap the wedges/knives in a bit further and repeat the process. > After about 45 minutes, I heard a gentle pop as the adhesive released. > This was followed by another popping sound as I opened a frosty beverage to > celebrate. I still have to remove the thin layer of remaining adhesive > residue but at least the tabernacle is free from the cabin top. I really > appreciate all the helpful advice. Thanks! > > Jesse Shumaker > S/V Zephyr > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 5:32 AM Jesse Shumaker < > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks for all the quick responses, links to articles and details of your > > experiences removing "the devil's glue." It really helps to have the > > collective knowledge and research of the group! > > > > I ordered some Marine Formula DeBond and a razor blade scraper knife. I > > also made a wooden wedge and have a rubber mallet ready for some *very > *gentle > > taps after patiently waiting for the adhesive remover to go to work. The > > DeBond should get here on Friday so this will be a weekend project. > Until > > then, I have other boat projects underway to keep me busy when I'm not at > > work. > > > > I'll be sure to follow up this weekend and let you know the (hopefully > not > > gripping) conclusion. > > > > Jesse Shumaker > > S/V Zephyr > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 4:42 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> OK I am adding to this as I JUST got through managing a 5200-attached > >> hatch > >> on forward deck > >> STRONGLY recommend you not use mallet or cutting as this can damage the > >> deck. > >> DEBOND (can get via Amazon)works well and is safer > >> Spray a good layer of the debond under one side of the tabernacle and > wait > >> a few minutes, then lightly tap wooden wedges into the gap. patience > >> essential here. Spray more in and advance a little bit at a time. It > will > >> work, just do not force it or you will split the fiberglass. Will need a > >> sharp chisel to clean off the gel coat > >> Agree that Practical Sailor article very helpful as well > >> > >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 3:20 PM, Michael D. Weisner < > mweisner at ebsmed.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > I wonder how 3M 5200 compares to adult barnacle attachment secretion > >> which > >> > is nearly impossible to break. > >> > > >> > Maybe Debond would work on barnacles! > >> > > >> > Mike > >> > s/v Wind Lass ('91) > >> > Nissequogue River, NY > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of > >> > Graham Stewart > >> > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 3:07 PM > >> > To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > >> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] removing tabernacle > >> > > >> > Mark: I wouldn't even use it for the hull-deck joint. In fact I had to > >> > break the seal to remove the foredeck on my boat. I may be the only > >> person > >> > to ever do that but still I don't think anything is permanent. 5200 > and > >> > similar are incredible adhesives but if you are primarily interested > in > >> a > >> > sealant where high adhesive qualities are not the highest priority and > >> if > >> > there is any possibility that you might want to break the bond in the > >> > future, I would always seek an alternative. 3M 4200 is a very strong > >> > adhesive but is easier to remove. > >> > > >> > Graham Stewart > >> > Agile, Rodes 22, 1976 > >> > Kingston Ontario > >> > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On > >> Behalf > >> > Of Mark Whipple > >> > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 10:28 AM > >> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > >> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] removing tabernacle > >> > > >> > I've read that if you take a strong, thin wire like piano wire you can > >> > slowly cut through the 5200 (AKA Devil's Glue). Don't know if heating > it > >> > would help. I've never needed to try this so if you do let us know how > >> it > >> > goes. > >> > > >> > About the only legit use I've heard of for 5200 is a hull-to-deck > joint. > >> > That's something that you hope you'll never have to disassemble. > >> > > >> > Good luck, > >> > > >> > Mark > >> > > >> > Boston, MA > >> > > >> > 2000 R22 *Luna Mia* > >> > 1987 Nimble 30 *For Sale* > >> > 1982 Com-Pac 16 *For Sale* > >> > > >> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:03 AM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > Where something is adhering to fiberglass with 5200 I think a > >> > > sufficient whack to break the bond is likely to remove the gel coat > >> > > before the bond breaks. A whack might work for a metal to metal bond > >> > > but I would still be very careful especially for something like cast > >> > aluminum. > >> > > > >> > > Graham Stewart > >> > > Agile, Rodes 22, 1976 > >> > > Kingston Ontario > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On > >> > > Behalf Of Ric Stott > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 8:09 AM > >> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > >> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] removing tabernacle > >> > > > >> > > Careful wack with Rubber mallet!! > >> > > Ric > >> > > Dadventure > >> > > > >> > > Sent from my iPhone > >> > > > >> > > > On Oct 26, 2020, at 11:43 PM, Chris Geankoplis < > >> > > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > ?Hey Jesse, > >> > > > Sounds like PL5200. Strongest stuff in the world. Just about > >> > > > impossible > >> > > to > >> > > > remove. You might make a hack saw frame but with the blade at 90 > >> > > > degrees > >> > > to > >> > > > a normal one. Slowly cut between the cabin roof and tabernacle. At > >> > > > some point you can apply a rotational motion and should get it > off. > >> > > > You will Have an ugly scarred area. Research to see if they have > >> > > > come up with a solvent for 5200. If so, use that rather than the > >> > > > butchery method. Good luck. > >> > > > > >> > > > Chris Geankoplis > >> > > > Enosis. > >> > > > > >> > > >> On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 at 21:51, Jesse Shumaker < > >> > > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> > >> > > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Hi, I'm attempting to remove the mast tabernacle in order to > >> > > >> install the Dwyer Halyard Organizer plate (part DH288). The > three > >> > > >> screws came out easily, but the tabernacle is still attached very > >> > > >> strongly with an adhesive. I don't know what adhesive was used. > >> > > >> The adhesive is colored white. I tried heating up the plate > with a > >> > > >> soldering iron and tried to squeeze in a razor but have been > unable > >> > to break the seal. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> I would appreciate any tips from the group on how to free the > >> > > >> tabernacle from the cabin top. Thanks in advance for any advice! > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Jesse Shumaker > >> > > >> S/V Zephyr > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: TabernacleRemovalBefore.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 48098 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20201103/222dac6e/attachment.jpe > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: TabernacleRemovalAfter.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 38648 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20201103/222dac6e/attachment-0001.jpe > > >
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