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I see a beautiful sunset, Ric.See the original archive post
On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 1:05 PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote: > [image: IMG_1943.jpeg] > This is an experiment. > I have not been able to send attachments using my mac mail - ever. > I have logged on to gmail and I'm replying from gmail. > I'm attaching a photo to see if it goes through. > LMK > Ric > Dadventure > > > > Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP > www.stottarchitecture.com > Office 631-283-1777 > Cell 516-965-3164 > > > > > > On Oct 28, 2020, at 6:32 AM, Jesse Shumaker < > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> > wrote: > > Thanks for all the quick responses, links to articles and details of your > experiences removing "the devil's glue." It really helps to have the > collective knowledge and research of the group! > > I ordered some Marine Formula DeBond and a razor blade scraper knife. I > also made a wooden wedge and have a rubber mallet ready for some *very > *gentle > taps after patiently waiting for the adhesive remover to go to work. The > DeBond should get here on Friday so this will be a weekend project. Until > then, I have other boat projects underway to keep me busy when I'm not at > work. > > I'll be sure to follow up this weekend and let you know the (hopefully not > gripping) conclusion. > > Jesse Shumaker > S/V Zephyr > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 4:42 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com> > wrote: > > OK I am adding to this as I JUST got through managing a 5200-attached hatch > on forward deck > STRONGLY recommend you not use mallet or cutting as this can damage the > deck. > DEBOND (can get via Amazon)works well and is safer > Spray a good layer of the debond under one side of the tabernacle and wait > a few minutes, then lightly tap wooden wedges into the gap. patience > essential here. Spray more in and advance a little bit at a time. It will > work, just do not force it or you will split the fiberglass. Will need a > sharp chisel to clean off the gel coat > Agree that Practical Sailor article very helpful as well > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 3:20 PM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> > wrote: > > I wonder how 3M 5200 compares to adult barnacle attachment secretion > > which > > is nearly impossible to break. > > Maybe Debond would work on barnacles! > > Mike > s/v Wind Lass ('91) > Nissequogue River, NY > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of > Graham Stewart > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 3:07 PM > To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] removing tabernacle > > Mark: I wouldn't even use it for the hull-deck joint. In fact I had to > break the seal to remove the foredeck on my boat. I may be the only > > person > > to ever do that but still I don't think anything is permanent. 5200 and > similar are incredible adhesives but if you are primarily interested in a > sealant where high adhesive qualities are not the highest priority and if > there is any possibility that you might want to break the bond in the > future, I would always seek an alternative. 3M 4200 is a very strong > adhesive but is easier to remove. > > Graham Stewart > Agile, Rodes 22, 1976 > Kingston Ontario > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On > > Behalf > > Of Mark Whipple > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 10:28 AM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] removing tabernacle > > I've read that if you take a strong, thin wire like piano wire you can > slowly cut through the 5200 (AKA Devil's Glue). Don't know if heating it > would help. I've never needed to try this so if you do let us know how it > goes. > > About the only legit use I've heard of for 5200 is a hull-to-deck joint. > That's something that you hope you'll never have to disassemble. > > Good luck, > > Mark > > Boston, MA > > 2000 R22 *Luna Mia* > 1987 Nimble 30 *For Sale* > 1982 Com-Pac 16 *For Sale* > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:03 AM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> > wrote: > > Where something is adhering to fiberglass with 5200 I think a > sufficient whack to break the bond is likely to remove the gel coat > before the bond breaks. A whack might work for a metal to metal bond > but I would still be very careful especially for something like cast > > aluminum. > > > Graham Stewart > Agile, Rodes 22, 1976 > Kingston Ontario > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On > Behalf Of Ric Stott > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 8:09 AM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] removing tabernacle > > Careful wack with Rubber mallet!! > Ric > Dadventure > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 26, 2020, at 11:43 PM, Chris Geankoplis < > > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote: > > > ?Hey Jesse, > Sounds like PL5200. Strongest stuff in the world. Just about > impossible > > to > > remove. You might make a hack saw frame but with the blade at 90 > degrees > > to > > a normal one. Slowly cut between the cabin roof and tabernacle. At > some point you can apply a rotational motion and should get it off. > You will Have an ugly scarred area. Research to see if they have > come up with a solvent for 5200. If so, use that rather than the > butchery method. Good luck. > > Chris Geankoplis > Enosis. > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 at 21:51, Jesse Shumaker < > > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > Hi, I'm attempting to remove the mast tabernacle in order to > install the Dwyer Halyard Organizer plate (part DH288). The three > screws came out easily, but the tabernacle is still attached very > strongly with an adhesive. I don't know what adhesive was used. > The adhesive is colored white. I tried heating up the plate with a > soldering iron and tried to squeeze in a razor but have been unable > > to break the seal. > > > I would appreciate any tips from the group on how to free the > tabernacle from the cabin top. Thanks in advance for any advice! > > Jesse Shumaker > S/V Zephyr > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_1943.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 980595 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20201028/39753172/attachment.jpeg > > >
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