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Roger, thanks for the clarification. I misunderstood the intention and interpreted the Harbors of Refuge name too narrowly. As I read more about it, I can see that it is an impressive system. You certainly have a lot of great sailing opportunities in Michigan! Jesse Shumaker S/V ZephyrSee the original archive post
On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 6:08 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote: > Jesse, > > Harbors of Refuge, there not just any port in a storm! :<) But > seriously, despite the ominous sounding name, they are intended for routine > use by transient recreational boaters. As such, they enable folks with > smaller boats, like you and I, to recreate on the great lakes in ways that > are not really feasible in other States. Considering the revenues > transient boaters bring in to small coastal communities, the program has > been a tremendous boost to the economies of many Michigan cities and > towns. I think it is an example of a very successful government > infrastructure program. > > Anyway, the Harbor of Refuge network cost hundreds of millions of $’s to > build and maintain. So, we should all make use of it! > > Roger Pihlaja > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium > > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > From: Jesse Shumaker<mailto:jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 1:58 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] sailing in Grand Traverse Bay in Michigan > > Roger, thanks for the detailed explanation. Yes, it appears that we stayed > at some "harbors of refuge" after all since a number of the marinas that we > stayed at were municipal ("city dock") marinas. We just stayed at those > marinas as a matter of convenience and since they had availability, rather > than utilizing them under duress. The info you provided is very helpful > for future planning! > > Jesse Shumaker > S/V Zephyr > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 7:13 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> > wrote: > > > Hi Jesse, > > > > I was just wondering if you were aware of the Michigan Harbors of Refuge > > program. The 3 attached .jpg files are maps that give the locations of > > Michigan Harbors of Refuge on the east coast, west coast, and the upper > > peninsula. You can get more info at www.michigan.gov/harbors<< > http://www.michigan.gov/harbors%3c> > > http://www.michigan.gov/harbors> . The program was created in 1947 with > > the goal; that, there should be a public harbor of refuge with slips for > > transient boaters no more than every 15 miles of great lakes coastline > > apart. There are still stretches of coastline, particularly in the upper > > peninsula, wherein they have not yet reached their separation distance > > goal. However, the 3 attached maps show how extensive the Harbor of > Refuge > > network has become. The existence of these Harbors of Refuge makes it > > possible to do multiday cruising in much smaller boats than would > otherwise > > be safe. Since we own 22 ft LOA sailboats, this is obviously a useful > > program! Even though it wasn’t an issue on your cruise, in the Grand > > Traverse Bay area, the following cities have Harbors of Refuge: > Northport, > > Leland, Suttons Bay, Greilickville, Traverse City, Elk Rapids, and > > Charlevoix. If you stayed at the “Municipal Marina” or “City Dock” in > any > > of those places, you probably stayed in a Harbor of Refuge. Of course, > in > > Grand Traverse Bay, you can hardly throw a stick without hitting a > > privately owned marina. But, many (most) locations in Michigan are much > > more sparsely populated with marinas. > > > > By the way, the Michigan Department of Natural Resources publishes a > > 3-ring binder called the “Michigan Harbors Guide”. In this guide, each > > Harbor of Refuge has the front and back of a single page. There is an > > aerial photo showing the safe approach, GPS coordinates of the harbor > > entrance, and any aids &/or hazards to navigation. There is data like > the > > number of transient slips available, water depth at the dock, services > like > > fuel, septic pump out, repairs, water, contact phone numbers, etc. > Anyone > > can order a copy for free! The guide is printed on water resistant > paper. > > The Michigan Harbors Guide is an essential resource at S/V dynamic > > Equilibrium’s nav station. It also makes great reading/dreaming > material > > over the winter sitting in front of the fireplace! > > > > I’ve sailed the great lakes in all the States that have great lakes > > coastline. I’ve not found any state with a comparable Harbors of Refuge > > program. It’s yet another thing that makes Michigan such a special > place. > > > > [cid:image003.jpg at 01D6A5EF.A5F286F0] > > > > [cid:image005.jpg at 01D6A5EF.A5F286F0] > > > > [cid:image009.jpg at 01D6A5EF.A5F286F0] > > > > Roger Pihlaja > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium > > > > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > > Windows 10 > > > > From: Jesse Shumaker<mailto:jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> > > Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 8:35 PM > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] sailing in Grand Traverse Bay in Michigan > > > > Roger, good to hear about the enjoyable fall camping trip. As we're > > heading into this time of the year, enjoyment outside has a lot to do > with > > gear and preparation. > > > > Regarding the marinas, we just called the marina on our cell phone when > we > > were within sight to check on the availability of transient slips. If no > > one answered, then we would hail them on VHF channel 16 and they would > have > > us switch to another channel for communication. That late in the season > it > > was easy to get a transient slip. In the summer, we may have to reserve > > early. As you may know (but others on the list may not be aware), any of > > the marinas that accept Michigan state funding have to keep a certain > > percentage of slips available as transient slips and you can reserve > those > > online. I think most of the marinas that are designated as harbors of > > refuge are located in more exposed areas than Grand Traverse Bay, but I > see > > that Elk Rapids has that designation. For those on the list that may not > > be familiar, the harbor of refuge designation means that staff will not > > turn you away in emergency situations and when conditions on the water > are > > rough. > > > > I just found the following link to the list of harbors in Michigan and > > added this to the travelogue. There was a printed copy of this onboard > the > > charter boat that we would refer to before heading into a marina so we > > would be familiar with the layout ahead of time. > > > > > https://www2.dnr.state.mi.us/Publications/PDFS/RecreationCamping/boating/harbor_guide_small.pdf > > > > Jesse Shumaker > > S/V Zephyr > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 4:50 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Jesse, > > > > > > I’ve never sailed on Grand Traverse Bay; but, have visited all the > ports > > > of call in your story from land. Did you make use of the Michigan > Harbor > > > of Refuge system? > > > > > > I’m just getting back from a weekend camping trip with my Boy Scout > > > troop. We camped at Trinity Lutheran Church Camp on what used to be > > Wixom > > > Lake. As a member of Trinity Lutheran Church, I have access to the > camp. > > > We had access to the lodge to use the bathrooms. But, otherwise we > > stayed > > > outside. Friday night, we got sleet. Saturday morning, the zipper on > my > > > tent was frozen! Fortunately, a little pulling and working the zipper > > back > > > and forth freed it up. Saturday night was much warmer, it only got > down > > to > > > about 40 deg F. We have several crossover Webelos and this was their > > first > > > camping trip. Everyone seemed to be prepared for the conditions and > > stayed > > > warm. I was very proud of them. We did a lot of Tenderfoot and Second > > > Class Scout rank advancement stuff. After the older Scouts finished > > their > > > basic classes in knife and axe use and campfire building, I took over > and > > > instructed them all in building a fire with soaking wet firewood. I > > showed > > > them how to find dry wood even though it had rained/sleeted the night > > > before. I showed them how to use the hatchet to cut into the dry heart > > > wood on a piece of wet wood and chip off slivers of dry tinder and > > > kindling. Then, we had the new Scouts build a campfire with this wet > > > wood. Even my senior Scouts were impressed with how easy it was to > get a > > > fire going in these conditions. I think they all learned a useful life > > > skill. Now, I’m back home and all my camping gear is drying in the > > > basement. > > > > > > Life is good! > > > > > > Roger Pihlaja > > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > On Oct 18, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Jesse Shumaker < > > > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > ?I put together a recap and some highlight photos of our sailing trip > > in > > > > Grand Traverse Bay at the link below. > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-XPDLxAJcuzvKa_3MJ7rwJ9JBhtzb8L_/view > > > > > > > > I included links in that document to resources for anyone that might > > want > > > > to plan a trip in the area. After reading the accounts of the > > adventures > > > > of others on this list, it inspired me to capture and share my trips. > > > Even > > > > if it's just me who looks at this in the future, I'll have something > to > > > > look back on later and relive the trip on cold winter days :) > > > > > > > > This trip was on a charter boat, but this area can be sailed by a R22 > > as > > > > well. If you make it to the end of the document, a R22 does make an > > > > appearance. > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-XPDLxAJcuzvKa_3MJ7rwJ9JBhtzb8L_/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > > > Jesse Shumaker > > > > S/V Zephyr > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 6:05 PM Jesse Shumaker < > > > >> jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> My wife and I had sailing plans out west, but that has been > > rescheduled > > > >> due to the wildfires and resulting air quality. I really feel bad > for > > > >> everyone affected by that on top of everything else delivered by > this > > > crazy > > > >> year of 2020. > > > >> > > > >> We swiftly changed plans and will be chartering a sailboat out of > > > Traverse > > > >> City, Michigan > > > >> later this month. We're actually going to be up there again in the > > > middle > > > >> of next summer. We have some family nearby that will be joining us > on > > > >> board for part of the trip. For this round we plan on spending most > > of > > > the > > > >> time within Grand Traverse Bay and going as far North as Charlevoix > or > > > >> possibly Harbor Point in Little Traverse Bay. Next summer we would > > > like to > > > >> make it over to Beaver Island if weather permits. > > > >> > > > >> For the first day, we're going to hire a captain and practice > docking > > > and > > > >> other boat handling since this will be a bigger boat for us. We had > > to > > > go > > > >> with what was available on short notice but end of season discounts > > > help. > > > >> It has IMF so it will be interesting to try that on a bigger boat. > > > >> > > > >> Tentative plan: > > > >> Thursday 9/24 1 Captain - spend the night at Elmwood Marina in > > Traverse > > > >> City > > > >> Friday 9/25 2 Power Island & Sutton's Bay > > > >> Saturday 9/26 3 Northport / Old Mission Bay > > > >> Sunday 9/27 4 Charleviox / Harbor Point in Little Traverse Bay > > > >> Monday 9/28 5 Omena Bay / Ingalls Bay > > > >> Tuesday 9/29 6 Elk Rapids / Old Mission > > > >> Wednesday 9/30 7 Return to Traverse City > > > >> > > > >> Would anyone on the list happen to be familiar with the area and > have > > > any > > > >> recommendations? > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> Jesse Shumaker > > > >> S/V Zephyr > > > >> > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: DD8818344B0B44C0AC2B35226D5F9E99.jpg > > Type: image/jpeg > > Size: 99468 bytes > > Desc: DD8818344B0B44C0AC2B35226D5F9E99.jpg > > URL: < > > > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20201019/53f49e23/attachment.jpg > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: C746F11F97384E10BD1BC693B5C778B6.jpg > > Type: image/jpeg > > Size: 102304 bytes > > Desc: C746F11F97384E10BD1BC693B5C778B6.jpg > > URL: < > > > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20201019/53f49e23/attachment-0001.jpg > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: 68E61B74CE3347F197153D1D78DA07E0.jpg > > Type: image/jpeg > > Size: 102892 bytes > > Desc: 68E61B74CE3347F197153D1D78DA07E0.jpg > > URL: < > > > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20201019/53f49e23/attachment-0002.jpg > > > > > > >
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