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2019-12-08; 10:56:48 EST
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Looks like I left off the last part of the post. It should have continued: Hope this is helpful to someone. There is more at the link above including Roger's and Stan's comments: http://www.rhodes22.org/blew_skies/tip001.html Former Rhodie Rik Sandberg had this to say in 2002. http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2002-December/004100.html Mary Lou ex Rhodes 22 now the trailerless Rosborough RF-246 Tara Rock Hall, MDSee the original archive post
On 12/7/2019 3:05 PM, Mary Lou Troy wrote: > I did a search in the archives and lo and behold I found the > "Fred/Mary Lou" boat recovery technique. I forgot that a departed but > fondly remembered Rhodie named Alex had inadvertently named it after > us. I've copied a couple of pertinent entries here and given some > links to other entries that I found in the search. All are from > 2000-2002. > > This entry from Alex and the next one from me are on the Rhodes > owner's site in the FAQ > (http://www.rhodes22.org/blew_skies/recovery.html) > > I will add that whenever we retrieved the boat, we moved the bow stop > on the trailer all the way forward to give the bow room to move and > then moved it back when the boat was in position. We painted a > vertical line on the bow stop arm to mark the spot where the bow stop > would rest against the boat if the boat is ideally positioned on the > trailer and used this as a check when retrieving the boat to make sure > it was where we wanted it. And note that this varies by ramp and > probably by trailer - ours was a single axle Triad. > > Alex said: > "Pamela and I used the Fred and Mary Lou technique several times with > very good results. They were dry sailors and launched and recovered > many more times than most of us. To review: > > Bring the boat up as far as it will come. We usually have about 6" of > the support bunks showing. If we submerge the bunk all the way, the > boat floats all over as you mentioned. > > As one person drives and pulls v-e-r-y- slowly, a second person can > crank the winch as the bow comes down from on high. We would move > maybe a foot and crank, then another foot and crank and so on. The > result the last time we pulled the boat was that the boat was against > the stop all the way forward, which I felt was too far forward and we > backed her down again and let the boat slip enough to allow the bow > stop to be moved 4" from the post. > > This method works well for our Triad trailer and the R22. As I said, > we had the boat all the way forward with no space between the bow stop > and winch support post. That probably would be fine, but I think it > might give excessive tongue weight at that point. > > It seems that the launch and recovery procedures might be different > based on the trailer. My old Rhodes had a 1987 Triad that was not as > difficult to recover and launch as the newer (1996) Triad that > supports Blue Daze. I don't recall anything major in the way of > differences, but there was something different. It might be that the > older trailers let the boat sit a bit lower to the ground than the > newer ones?? > > Alex" > > and I replied > > "Wow, what an honor to have a technique named after us! It is, > however, patented so you can send the royalties to... > > Glad to hear it works for others but I truly believe that you have to > adapt the technique (ours or others) to the ramp. The ramp at Bowley's > is relatively steep which is one of the reasons we developed the > (ahem) Fred/Mary Lou technique. For the last haulout of this year the > tide was way WAY out. We could drop the centerboard and have it hit > bottom long before it was fully deployed. With the tide that far out > the angle of the ramp was not nearly as steep as usual. We've never > used the tongue extender at Bowley's and didn't this time but we could > have, as the tailpipe of the Blazer was bubbling away. We normally > have the bunks just breaking the surface of the water. This time, with > the Blazer backed as far as we could without it drowning (or giving up > and actually using the extender) the best we could do was leave about > 6" to 8" showing. Fred was able to winch it all the way forward > because the angle was less steep. We did take up a little slack as we > pulled her out but not nearly as much as usual because the stern was > already mostly supported by the bunks. > > We've marked the ideal position of the bow support with a bit of red > paint. We were right on the money this time and could really tell the > difference trailering her home. She was only about an inch and a half > further forward than she was last year but what a difference it made > in the ride. We also took the rudder off and stowed it in the car and > took the anchor out of the lazarette to lighten the load aft. > > Now that we are taking a slip I guess we'll get out of practice. > > Mary Lou > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Hope this is helpful to someone. > > There is more at the link above and Roger's and Stan's comments are > here: http://www.rhodes22.org/blew_skies/tip001.html also from the > Rhodes owner's FAQ > > Former Rhodie Rik Sandber had this to say in 2002 > > > > > On 12/7/2019 11:44 AM, Graham Stewart wrote: >> Roger says that placing the boat in the correct location "is an >> adjustment you do once". I can adjust the bow bracket into what would >> seem to be the correct position but have had a devil of a time >> actually placing the boat that far forward. While the boat is still >> in the water I can draw the bow into the bracket but as the boat is >> drawn out of the water and the stern lowers onto the bunk there is >> enormous pressure exerted onto the hull at the forward end of the >> bunks and as soon as the winch is released the bow springs up and >> away from the bracket. >> When I stripped the bottom of paint I found a mass of hairline >> cracks and permanent depressions on either side of the hull where the >> front posts of the bunks are located. That didn't seem right to me >> and now that it has been repaired I am reluctant to risk damaging the >> hull again. >> I only tow my boat a few miles to the ramp and back going a low >> speed so I don't worry about getting the boat forward but if I were >> to take it on a longer trip at highway speeds I would be much more >> concerned to get the boat properly balanced on the trailer. >> Others have mentioned the same problem and I am wondering if those >> who have solved this problem might give advice on how they balance >> the boat on the trailer. >> Thanks, >> Graham Stewart >> Agile 1976 Rhodes 22 >> Kingston Ontario >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On >> Behalf Of ROGER PIHLAJA >> Sent: Saturday, December 7, 2019 12:06 AM >> To: Dana LeTendre; The Rhodes 22 Email List >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Trailering with outboard >> Dana, >> How many outboards on power boats do you see being trailered down >> the road? How many do you see with the outboard removed and secured >> inside the hull? The Rhodes 22 transom is built like a tank. Having >> the rudder and motor mounted won’t hurt anything. As long as the >> weight of the motor and rudder don’t affect the trailer tongue weight >> too much and cause instability on the highway, removing them for >> trailering is waste of time and energy. Getting the tongue weight >> correct is simply a matter of moving the boat fore and aft on the >> bunks until at least 10% of the total weight is on the tongue. It’s >> an adjustment you do once and it’s done. While it doesn’t hurt >> anything to remove the rudder and motor, there is plenty involved >> with rigging and unrigging the boat without messing around with the >> rudder and motor too. >> Roger Pihlaja >> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium >
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