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Ric Stott
Pop too hard enclosure
2022-05-18; 15:37:25 EDT
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2013-07-01
Posts: 431
Patrick - you might consider using the straps (or a bracket) to hold the panels up against the bottom of the bench seats rather than down on the cockpit sole. Ric Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP ric at stottarchitecture.com O -631-283-1777 C- 516-965-3164See the original archive post
> On May 18, 2022, at 3:05 PM, Patrick Cheung <chitakcheung at gmail.com> wrote: > > Ric, > Thanks for the suggestion, the front panel fit snugly under the starboard > cockpit seat, not a mm to spare. This is not planned. The two side panels > sit on top and there's still room to slide a shallow container on top. I > need straps to tie the 3 panels down. > > Roger, > Q1, I sew a PVC cover for the back, first time sewing, lots of language, > please see pictures attached. > Q2, No windows. Slide open the hatch for ventilation, push the whole top up > for more. If needed, I will add a strip of fine mosquito nettings and > velcro the netting from the raised FG top to the 3 panels. I should be able > to sew this strip with ease now. > > I have an old pop top enclosure and it doesn't fit any more. The rigid > panels can be installed a lot easier, installed without leaving the cabin. > > Just came back from a solo shake down sail with all the tops up. Duck > survived all points of sail, top stay put. > It is still a work in progress. > > Photos will be on a seperate email. Gmail doesn't like oneDrive. > > patrick > > > > > > > On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 9:43 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com <mailto:roger_pihlaja at msn.com>> wrote: > >> Hi Patrick, >> >> I like the smooth, clean look of your hard pop top enclosure. However, I >> have two questions: >> >> >> 1. My canvas pop top enclosure has provision for sealing off the >> companionway hatch above the hatch cover boards. On your hard pop top >> enclosure, is there another piece that seals off the companionway hatch >> opening that is not shown in the picture? >> 2. The side windows and door on my canvas pop top enclosure have >> windows. Each of these windows is complete with inner privacy screens, >> insect screens, and clear plastic windows that shed rain. Does your hard >> pop top enclosure have any provisions for ventilation and privacy? >> >> The following 6 pictures are from the archives: >> >> [cid:image004.jpg at 01D86A9B.BDE55C70 <cid:image004.jpg at 01D86A9B.BDE55C70>] >> >> [cid:image006.jpg at 01D86A9B.BDE55C70 <cid:image006.jpg at 01D86A9B.BDE55C70>] >> >> [cid:image008.jpg at 01D86A9B.BDE55C70 <cid:image008.jpg at 01D86A9B.BDE55C70>] >> >> [cid:image010.jpg at 01D86A9B.BDE55C70 <cid:image010.jpg at 01D86A9B.BDE55C70>] >> >> [cid:image011.jpg at 01D86A9B.BDE55C70 <cid:image011.jpg at 01D86A9B.BDE55C70>] >> >> [cid:image012.jpg at 01D86A9B.BDE55C70 <cid:image012.jpg at 01D86A9B.BDE55C70>] >> >> As you can see, the canvas pop top enclosure rolls up and fits loosely >> into a 20 liter dry bag. This dry bag will fit up under the gunnel behind >> the cockpit seats. I have some Velcro straps up there to keep it in >> place. There is enough room on the foredeck to do the 6 illustrated >> folding steps, although it’s easier on the dock or a lawn. >> >> Do you sail with your hard pop top up? >> >> Roger Pihlaja >> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium >> >> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>> for Windows >> >> From: Ric Stott<mailto:ric at stottarchitecture.com <mailto:ric at stottarchitecture.com>> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 5:28 AM >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Pop too hard enclosure >> >> We’ll done Patrick. Very nice look. >> I think they could be stored under the cockpit seats if a clever support >> was crafted, they would disappear under the seat and leave room on the >> cockpit sole for more. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 17, 2022, at 5:13 PM, Brian Ferguson < >> brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I’m getting a Com-Pac 23/IV vibe from that picture. >>> >>>> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 16:44 Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Very impressive! >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 17, 2022, 4:39 PM Patrick Cheung <chitakcheung at gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Someone wanted to see the exterior, here you go. >>>>> >>>>> Patrick >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On May 17, 2022, at 8:08 AM, Patrick Cheung <chitakcheung at gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Graham, >>>>>> I am still thinking where to stow the board. >>>>>> I am thinking of standing them up forward and against the bulkhead. I >>>>> previously lowered the floor at the head area, and there's enough >> height >>>> to >>>>> stow the boards. >>>>>> >>>>>> patrick >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 7:59 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com >>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Jeff, Peter, & Patrick, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Peter is correct about just keeping out rain when the boat is not >>>>> moving. However, if you trailer your boat in the rain &/or ever take >>>> green >>>>> water over the deck while sailing; then, you will find the raised lip >>>>> around the pop top will not be enough. Patrick is correct about the >>>>> adhesive backed closed cell foam tape adhered to the top and bottom >> edge. >>>>> This foam-to-foam seal will keep out all but the most driving rain, >> even >>>> at >>>>> expressway speeds. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Roger Pihlaja >>>>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from Mail< >> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=05%7C01%7C%7C17ace04c9a2045a740f108da38c9e2d6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637884737002251430%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ysvpwNHbwU4NxKoY%2FU%2FlFDTChknp9qwkgql3sZ7X4Fc%3D&reserved=0 <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=05%7C01%7C%7C17ace04c9a2045a740f108da38c9e2d6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637884737002251430%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ysvpwNHbwU4NxKoY%2FU%2FlFDTChknp9qwkgql3sZ7X4Fc%3D&reserved=0>> >> for >>>>> Windows >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Patrick Cheung<mailto:chitakcheung at gmail.com <mailto:chitakcheung at gmail.com>> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 6:13 PM >>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Pop too hard enclosure >>>>>>> >>>>>>> White foam sponge tape, will be adhered to top and bottom edge. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Patrick >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 16, 2022, at 9:09 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com <mailto:peter at sunnybeeches.com>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I wouldn't think it needs one. You're just keeping rain out. The >>>>> raised lip around the pop-top should be enough to keep water out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --Peter >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2022-05-16, at 20:51:22 EDT, Jeff Kantor wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What provides the weather seal at the deck? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> Name: image0.jpeg >>>>> Type: image/jpeg >>>>> Size: 161497 bytes >>>>> Desc: not available >>>>> URL: < >>>>> >>>> >> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20220517%2F447c2849%2Fattachment.jpeg&data=05%7C01%7C%7C17ace04c9a2045a740f108da38c9e2d6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637884737002251430%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=7cPZpk9arvSrIS3gUWJx7d5%2BQE5ZOnAFjHpO1rrBZL4%3D&reserved=0 <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20220517%2F447c2849%2Fattachment.jpeg&data=05%7C01%7C%7C17ace04c9a2045a740f108da38c9e2d6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637884737002251430%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=7cPZpk9arvSrIS3gUWJx7d5%2BQE5ZOnAFjHpO1rrBZL4%3D&reserved=0> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: 2B466B7DD36848D698E95C037E80A8E1.jpg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 131155 bytes >> Desc: 2B466B7DD36848D698E95C037E80A8E1.jpg >> URL: < >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220518/45cce48c/attachment.jpg <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220518/45cce48c/attachment.jpg> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: 7F76D7249BB94B8EAF637DDFF506C068.jpg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 126986 bytes >> Desc: 7F76D7249BB94B8EAF637DDFF506C068.jpg >> URL: < >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220518/45cce48c/attachment-0001.jpg <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220518/45cce48c/attachment-0001.jpg> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: 080AA8D8E0E3445D86E9A0DE3081AA81.jpg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 122790 bytes >> Desc: 080AA8D8E0E3445D86E9A0DE3081AA81.jpg >> URL: < >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220518/45cce48c/attachment-0002.jpg <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220518/45cce48c/attachment-0002.jpg> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: 4E09D8803A784571BDBCB1DAC1F045C4.jpg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 126621 bytes >> Desc: 4E09D8803A784571BDBCB1DAC1F045C4.jpg >> URL: < >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220518/45cce48c/attachment-0003.jpg <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220518/45cce48c/attachment-0003.jpg> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: F77C4013A09F48B392E88AE69DA6F8E5.jpg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 120641 bytes >> Desc: F77C4013A09F48B392E88AE69DA6F8E5.jpg >> URL: < >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220518/45cce48c/attachment-0004.jpg <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220518/45cce48c/attachment-0004.jpg> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: 9E3B144DE4AF45348681971DA714A05A.jpg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 178259 bytes >> Desc: 9E3B144DE4AF45348681971DA714A05A.jpg >> URL: < >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220518/45cce48c/attachment-0005.jpg <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220518/45cce48c/attachment-0005.jpg>
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